General > General Technical Chat
BREXIT - what it means for small manufacturers
themadhippy:
--- Quote ---One of the problems is the vote was won by a small margin. Taking into account for the fact not everyone voted, most of the people in the UK didn't vote to leave. There should have been a clause in the referendum stating that, Brexit would only occur if the majority of those who were eligible, voted to leave. Unfortunately, given that there was no such clause, we must leave the EU and not just in name only, as some politicians want. It's the only way to stop the government from losing any more trust, than it already has.
--- End quote ---
There was a higher turnout for the brexit vote at 72.2%, than any general election since 1992
coppice:
--- Quote from: Zero999 on December 12, 2020, 05:59:36 pm ---In my opinion, the EU expanded too quickly. They allowed poorer, Eastern European countries to join too quickly. The reason for this is because they wanted to lessen Russia's influence, over Eastern Europe, which has caused trouble in some places, such as Ukraine.
--- End quote ---
I think the key problem with the EU is that national governments love their own parochial power too much. They allowed the formation of a democratically elected European Parliament, and quite reasonably gave it very limited initial powers. However, their reluctance to let its power grow steadily has put more and more power in the hands of unelected bodies operating in parallel. So, we are now see the people of the EU are in a position of expanding authoritarian rule.
Personally, I think its irrelevant whether Britain is in or out of the EU. The Euro tying interest rates together between the most successful and least successful parts of Europe is causing such tensions that it is, ironically, only the difficulty of freeing themselves from the Euro that is keep several of its members from joining the UK on an exit route.
CJay:
--- Quote from: Zero999 on December 12, 2020, 05:59:36 pm ---Many countries sharing the the same rules and currency brings a range of benefits, regarding trade and freedom, but it also has downsides too. Getting the EU to change a certain rule is challenging, because it has to be agreed between all member states, which can result in unnecessary delays. A classic example is the COVID-19 vaccine, which was swiftly approved by the UK, but will take awhile for the EU to agree on it.
--- End quote ---
EU law allows individual member states to give emergency approval for a drug which is precisely how we managed to approve the COVID vaccine as we're still in the transition period and subject to the very EU laws our government have said would prevent us approving the vaccine's use.
It's yet more lies and bluster from our own government.
CJay:
--- Quote from: themadhippy on December 12, 2020, 06:30:40 pm ---
--- Quote ---One of the problems is the vote was won by a small margin. Taking into account for the fact not everyone voted, most of the people in the UK didn't vote to leave. There should have been a clause in the referendum stating that, Brexit would only occur if the majority of those who were eligible, voted to leave. Unfortunately, given that there was no such clause, we must leave the EU and not just in name only, as some politicians want. It's the only way to stop the government from losing any more trust, than it already has.
--- End quote ---
There was a higher turnout for the brexit vote at 72.2%, than any general election since 1992
--- End quote ---
The margin was still small, that's fact, a large turnout just means more people voted, it doesn't give more or less of a mandate.
SilverSolder:
--- Quote from: fcb on December 12, 2020, 05:53:34 pm ---
--- Quote from: S. Petrukhin on December 12, 2020, 05:36:49 pm ---Guys from England, but who chose Johnson? You didn't participate in this?
--- End quote ---
Democracy.
--- End quote ---
"Civilization, in fact, grows more maudlin and hysterical; especially under democracy it tends to degenerate into a mere combat of crazes; the whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary."
-- HL Mencken - In Defense of Women, 1918
Navigation
[0] Message Index
[#] Next page
[*] Previous page
Go to full version