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| SerieZ:
--- Quote from: SilverSolder on December 14, 2020, 03:05:15 pm --- --- Quote from: SerieZ on December 14, 2020, 12:28:30 pm ---I have a had a lifetime experience from outside Eu and dealing with them. Sorry, but I don't take such doomsday conspiracies too seriously. You can be happy of the useless baggage you got rid off and with a little bit of good luck the EU can get rid of its own and become what it was intended to be in the beginning. Honestly to me this exemplifies everything that is wrong with the EU to begin with, a bunch of Bureaucrats who think they are too big to fail. --- End quote --- Switzerland has so many agreements in place with the EU that it is as close to being an EU member as it is possible to get, while still being able to claim they are not... at the cost of massively increased bureaucracy. I'm not understanding the point you are trying to make? --- End quote --- Switzerland has so many agreements in place with the EU Yes that it is as close to being an EU member as it is possible to get If by being almost an EU Member you mean being bullied into accepting policies every X Years which more often than not violate promises made by the EU towards Switzerland so to get us to sign them in the first place, sure. at the cost of massively increased bureaucracy. At least I know that my tax, unlike the average EU Citizen closely to 50% Income Tax + 17% something tax on products, does not go to some fat suit in Brussels to implement laws which fuck me over on a daily basis while sipping champagne and going to brothels. BTW, Yes, I remember times before the EU, and Yes I also like some things of the EU - like Visa free travel and the such, but at some point the line has to be drawn on what amount of power you want to give to such an out of touch Institution. To me it has gone out of Hand since the Euro, what a mess that did to Southern Europe. I think the only people in a bubble are the people delusional to think centralization is the solution. |
| fcb:
Just think how much better off Switzerland would be if it had fish and a Navy. :popcorn: |
| SerieZ:
--- Quote from: fcb on December 14, 2020, 04:29:50 pm ---Just think how much better off Switzerland would be if it had fish and a Navy. :popcorn: --- End quote --- You would be surprised at the amount of ships going under the Swiss flag on International Sea. |
| bd139:
--- Quote from: Mr. Scram on December 14, 2020, 03:49:33 pm --- --- Quote from: Zero999 on December 14, 2020, 08:39:20 am ---I agree Brexit is bad for business, but what's to say there still will be an EU, in a few decades? There are anti-EU movements in other countries too. --- End quote --- There seem to be anti-EU movements because people live in their EU bubble and have short enough memories to forget how Europe was before. Apparently people get complacent without a thorn in their side to make them remember. Bloody humans eh? --- End quote --- Need another war just to remind people how fragile shit is... That's how it usually goes! |
| SilverSolder:
--- Quote from: SerieZ on December 14, 2020, 04:25:11 pm ---[... my taxes] does not go to some fat suit in Brussels to implement laws which fuck me over on a daily basis while sipping champagne and going to brothels. [...] --- End quote --- Is Switzerland a religious/ Catholic country or something? Certainly large parts of Europe are pretty relaxed about those kinds of things - and while politicians are busy with that, they are not doing damage elsewhere! :D --- Quote from: SerieZ on December 14, 2020, 04:25:11 pm ---[...] BTW, Yes, I remember times before the EU, and Yes I also like some things of the EU - like Visa free travel and the such, but at some point the line has to be drawn on what amount of power you want to give to such an out of touch Institution. To me it has gone out of Hand since the Euro, what a mess that did to Southern Europe. I think the only people in a bubble are the people delusional to think centralization is the solution. --- End quote --- I agree, there has to be a balance between central and local power - it is a very difficult balance to strike, and there is probably no stationary solution to it. |
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