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| Gyro:
Every *** thread! :palm: |
| Electro Detective:
In response to engrguy42's reply: maybe I did come in a bit rugby on this one.. (as usual) :-[ or figured OP's request was satisfied, period. but we are sort of on the same page, and I use both your method :-+ but tend to stick with the DSLR as it gives me the exact photos I need/want, and from SLR and medium format experience, I can use to my advantage lens length effects, depth of field, back light control, flash/bounce and all the other good stuff, as well as speed in getting it done asap, and satisfying any impatience to get it done :horse: ---------------------- Quality debate aside :popcorn: for OP admiralk's immediate requirements the cheap DSLR and OEM macro lens to suit, is a better deal -IMVHO- than stuffing about with phones Full fast control of the shots, and with manual focus activated, can move in on difficult items in amongst many of different heights, as well as Depth Of Field options too My phones have good cameras with 12, 15 or 20mp? if we can believe the fudged specs :-// and admittedly take great point and pray shoot pics, but for speed and versatility the DSLR boots in under a second and it's rock and roll, pull out the SD card, transfer the pics to the PC, = job done :-+ ..before the phone has booted up and camera icon found :-// and all the rest of it.. ;D |
| admiralk:
--- Quote from: magic on April 19, 2020, 08:21:23 pm ---This is clearly shaken. There is no escaping physics. You need a larger sensor or a tripod. Optical image stabilization may help if you are lucky. --- End quote --- That was one of the best pictures I was ever able to take with my phone. It probably has more to do with how it is held and triggered more than anything else. I can hold a real camera much more steady, or at least I could the last time i used one. I found an A630 easily in my budget, without going the ebay route. The one thing I do not like is it only takes .jpg pictures. I used .tiff format on the old camera when I wanted quality pictures. From what I have been able to find, DSLRs are the way to go for uncompressed formats. I have no idea how to deal with RAW though. While I can find DSLRs in my budget, they never include lenses. That opens up a whole new can of worms. I have absolutely no idea how to pick a lens. <edit> My budgets are often equal to the ones the US government make, they usually go over. So if I could get a DSLR and lens by doubling it, no worries. @Electro Detective you make valid points. I am not sure I would need a macro lens though. A good close up that I can crop should work fine. That would also allow me to use it for other things. </edit> |
| DrG:
--- Quote from: admiralk on April 19, 2020, 11:06:54 pm --- --- Quote from: magic on April 19, 2020, 08:21:23 pm ---This is clearly shaken. There is no escaping physics. You need a larger sensor or a tripod. Optical image stabilization may help if you are lucky. --- End quote --- That was one of the best pictures I was ever able to take with my phone. It probably has more to do with how it is held and triggered more than anything else. I can hold a real camera much more steady, or at least I could the last time i used one. I found an A630 easily in my budget, without going the ebay route. The one thing I do not like is it only takes .jpg pictures. I used .tiff format on the old camera when I wanted quality pictures. From what I have been able to find, DSLRs are the way to go for uncompressed formats. I have no idea how to deal with RAW though. While I can find DSLRs in my budget, they never include lenses. That opens up a whole new can of worms. I have absolutely no idea how to pick a lens. --- End quote --- I just took these with my very old Powershot A640 0.65" x 0.5" 3.0" X 0.75" I did no post-processing other than cropping. Yes, I used a copy stand, but you should use one. I think for what you want, you can't go wrong with an old Powershot point and shoot. No investment in a macro lens and you can learn to live with .jpg - no? |
| jogri:
--- Quote from: admiralk on April 19, 2020, 11:06:54 pm ---While I can find DSLRs in my budget, they never include lenses. That opens up a whole new can of worms. I have absolutely no idea how to pick a lens. --- End quote --- Almost all DSLRs come with one or two standard lenses, there are a bunch of them on ebay. The included lenses are mostly 18-55mm, just search for "brand 18 55mm" on ebay. A good example would be the Canon EFS 18-55mm lens, you can get them for under 50 bucks. Btw, the Canon lens i mentioned works fine for taking pics of pcbs (from ~25cm away), i just tested it with my dslr. |
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