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tooki:

--- Quote from: Ed.Kloonk on October 14, 2022, 03:59:17 am ---Hey, pardon my ignorance since vacuuming is the woman's job and all but what's the difference between paper bags and synthetic ones for a non-dyson?

Other than being twice the price, why should I not just get the paper one?

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Synthetic bags supposedly have better filtration performance (both in particle size and in not getting clogged up) and airflow.

My vacuum only takes synthetics so I can’t compare performance over paper, but what I can compare is price, and I can say with confidence that by shopping around (look at compatibility with other brands, which may be cheaper) you can get synthetic bags quite cheaply. (For example, mine is a Siemens, but essentially identical vaccines are sold under Bosch and other brand names. At any given time, one or another will be cheaper, have multipacks, etc.) There are third party bags too, but their price has never been below the best price I’ve found for original ones.
tooki:

--- Quote from: thm_w on October 13, 2022, 11:19:06 pm ---Yeah Dyson is not junk, not even close, it’s just expensive. Anyone who says that has never owned or taken apart a Dyson product.

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Price aside, Dyson products often feel cheap: the plastic is rather soft, often unpainted. I’ve seen more than one Dyson upright vacuum fail because the plastic broke at the seam (I don’t know the technical term for it: where two flows of material meet during injection molding, and are supposed to fully fuse).

I wanna say that AvE wasn’t super impressed by them in a teardown.
Sal Ammoniac:
I have a Dyson vacuum, and you're right, it does feel rather cheap. Every time I use it it feels like something is going to break off.
james_s:

--- Quote from: Psi on October 14, 2022, 04:13:29 am ---Dyson is one of those brands that just pisses me of. So much arrogance.

Apple being another.


I just won't buy their stuff on principle. 
Even if it was the best option. (Which it isn't.)

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The Project Farm video seemed like a fairly objective test to me, and the Dyson easily came out on top in many of the tests.

I can't recall ever seeing any kind of advertising for them so I don't know what arrogance you're speaking of. I bought mine after using one that a friend had, it was so much better than the vacuum I had. I suspect you have never owned or used one.
PlainName:

--- Quote from: Ed.Kloonk on October 14, 2022, 03:59:17 am ---Hey, pardon my ignorance since vacuuming is the woman's job and all but what's the difference between paper bags and synthetic ones for a non-dyson?

Other than being twice the price, why should I not just get the paper one?

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You can throw a paper one away. With synthetic you empty the bags so you can reuse them, and that's when you figure bagless is the only vacuum you're going to get in future.
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