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Offline steve30

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Re: Bulls##t ?
« Reply #25 on: August 29, 2015, 10:24:46 am »
I've seen loads of examples of snake oil cables for sale, but are there many webpages made by the gullible people who actually buy them? Not sure I've ever seen one.
 

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Re: Bulls##t ?
« Reply #26 on: August 29, 2015, 01:34:15 pm »
It says the cable is made from solid, rather than stranded cores which won't comply with the electrical regulations in most countries which is dangerous and shouldn't be sold.

I actually haven't seen this in any codes UL, CE, NEC, CSA.. Can you elaborate what you are citing?
No, I don't have a citing, as the standards are all payware. There's a reference to it in the portable appliance testing (PAT) standard but I don't have it with me ant the moment. I believe it'll probably be somewhere in BS EN 50525.
http://shop.bsigroup.com/ProductDetail/?pid=000000000030188772

Solid core wire is not allowed for portable appliances because the conductors can't be bent many times before braking, due to metal fatigue. All portable appliances must have flexible cables, with conductors consisting of many strands of fine wire.

If saw one of those silly solid core audio cables at work, I'd put it quarantine and even consider destroying it so it can't be used.
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Re: Bulls##t ?
« Reply #27 on: August 29, 2015, 03:15:05 pm »
I've cabled a few studios, and never used any exotic media... Just good honest professional cables well laid.  Connectors, buy the best you can.
The rest is total BS

Agreed man   :D
 

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Re: Bulls##t ?
« Reply #28 on: August 29, 2015, 05:34:05 pm »
The good thing about spouting nonsense is that you don't have to be self consistent.  In the first paragraph they talk about the dangers of stranded wire because of inter strand effects.  A few paragraphs down they talk about their concentric construction where the strands of the positive conductor surround the strands of the negative conductor.  They talk about the smoothness of the cable and even minimizing grain boundaries because of the impact of discontinuities, and then brag about adding ferrite absorbers.

I guess this advert shows the attention span of an audiophool.
 

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Re: Bulls##t ?
« Reply #29 on: August 29, 2015, 08:11:19 pm »
At the end of the day the reader will have little to no technical background, and writer will probably be not much better.
 

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« Reply #30 on: August 29, 2015, 08:36:02 pm »
Because there are enough dumb people that buy there stuff.

What's worse is these con artists go home at night with pockets full of money and feel good about it.  Taking advantage of people, smart or not is a crime against humanity.
 
I'd say they'll get what's coming to them, but that usually doesn't happen, they just move on to the next thing, like the Batteriser, LMAO.

 Well to be fair their customers share a lot of the blame for supporting these scam artists. The fact that such people with such excessive disposable income seem to want some magic bullet to improve their audio systems or to impress their equally minded friends. It's just jewelry to prop up their egos. These suppliers and customers deserve each other in a free market. These are not payday lenders feeding on the dregs of society.
 

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Re: Bulls##t ?
« Reply #31 on: August 29, 2015, 08:39:08 pm »
Because there are enough dumb people that buy there stuff.

What's worse is these con artists go home at night with pockets full of money and feel good about it.  Taking advantage of people, smart or not is a crime against humanity.
 
I'd say they'll get what's coming to them, but that usually doesn't happen, they just move on to the next thing, like the Batteriser, LMAO.

 Well to be fair their customers share a lot of the blame for supporting these scam artists. The fact that such people with such excessive disposable income seem to want some magic bullet to improve their audio systems or to impress their equally minded friends. It's just jewelry to prop up their egos. These suppliers and customers deserve each other in a free market. These are not payday lenders feeding on the dregs of society.

Quite, these people are buying a product, that product includes the service and cap doffing. If that is what people want and they can pay for it, good luck to them and good to see some trickle down or at least across ;) I'm sure every maker of these cables has some unique background/story
 

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Re: Bulls##t ?
« Reply #32 on: August 30, 2015, 10:12:58 am »
The good thing about spouting nonsense is that you don't have to be self consistent.  In the first paragraph they talk about the dangers of stranded wire because of inter strand effects.
Dangers of stranded wire? If they're telling the truth about solid core wire then their product is dangerous and should be taken off the market. They should be fined so much money they go out of business.
 

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Re: Bulls##t ?
« Reply #33 on: August 30, 2015, 10:14:07 am »
The good thing about spouting nonsense is that you don't have to be self consistent.  In the first paragraph they talk about the dangers of stranded wire because of inter strand effects.
Dangers of stranded wire? If they're telling the truth about solid core wire then their product is dangerous and should be taken off the market. They should be fined so much money they go out of business.

You can't do that, think of the unemployment and loss of tax revenue  :-DD
 


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