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Californians out of electricity cant get gasoline to generators!
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IanB:

--- Quote from: soldar on October 12, 2019, 10:53:52 pm ---PG&E had a net loss of some billion in 2018 so there's no way they could pay for all the needed improvements.
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Then they should lose their franchise and let it be handed to over to another company. Their loss was a result of corporate malfeasance.
KaneTW:
I really should stop replying to MT posts (how do I ignore users on this forum?) but:

This isn't caused by "socialism," it's caused by an absolute lack of accountability and regulations, and greedy PG&E companies. Exactly the thing "socialism" would help with, actually.
Mr. Scram:

--- Quote from: Marco on October 13, 2019, 01:03:16 am ---Power is one thing, towns going up in flames is another. Paradise which went up in flames last year was literally build right up to the forest ...

You can't even do controlled burns near anything like that, which is why prescribed fire is not a solution. It can be done cheaper than mechanical clearing, but it's still not done on the scale of wild fires or everywhere it's necessary because of politics and the chance of it going out of control.

The only really option is isolating yourself, after which letting prescribed fire or wildfire do the job becomes mostly irrelevant.

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Isolation isn't feasible when fires become large enough. A big fire essentially creates its own weather system and rains fire across vast distances. You can't cut a 50 square mile desert to live in for everyone.
Marco:

--- Quote from: Mr. Scram on October 13, 2019, 02:11:25 am ---Isolation isn't feasible when fires become large enough. A big fire essentially creates its own weather system and rains fire across vast distances. You can't cut a 50 square mile desert to live in for everyone.

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A couple embers flying across a large fire break can be handled by a garden hose, fighting the beginnings of a fire across a firebreak is a problem of an entirely different order than trying to put out a forest fire ... and a surmountable problem.
maginnovision:
Except nobody is there to use a garden hose because they already evacuated. Every single year we have fires in southern california, there is nothing you can do to keep it from spreading until you have a clear idea of what it's doing and you have the resources in place to respond. They start and spread fast. Here SCE cuts trees near power lines couple times a year.
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