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Can Anonymous shut down Russian military satelite access?
Cerebus:
--- Quote from: penfold on March 02, 2022, 03:26:47 pm ---I get the sentiment, but there we have another motive for falsely advertising a hack... if every person who claims an ability to pull off the hack gets one soldier chasing them, that's one less soldier killing innocents... cue rousing music for a "...no I'm Spartacus!" moment.
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If you want to get twisted in thinking about it, it could even be a Russian disinformation campaign to divert resources away from concentrating on the war proper. Journalists who would otherwise be, say, writing up a piece about deliberate targeting of civilians that would ultimately lead to more pushback from the world, are dispatched instead to see what if anything Anonymous have actually done, a CIA analyst who might otherwise find information that could be usefully leaked to Ukraine via back channels is tied up investigating the purported Anonymous hack because Senator La Brea's horse wants to know if it's true or not, and so on.
vad:
I doubt average hackers can penetrate key military infrastructure, such as satellites. I doubt these systems are connected to Internet at all. Field agents and special technical means would be required to penetrate such systems.
On the other hand, given the overall state of its military forces, I would not be surprised if Russia does not have operational surveillance and communication satellites at all, or does not have sufficient amount of field equipment that work with satellites that are operational, and rely on foreign services such as GPS instead.
Also, military satellites belong to and are controlled by Russian Aerospace Forces, not Roskosmos.
Cerebus:
--- Quote from: vad on March 02, 2022, 05:02:45 pm ---On the other hand, given the overall state of its military forces, I would not be surprised if Russia does not have operational surveillance and communication satellites at all, or does not have sufficient amount of field equipment that work with satellites that are operational, and rely on foreign services such as GPS instead.
Also, military satellites belong to and are controlled by Russian Aerospace Forces, not Roskosmos.
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FYI the US currently has 28 GPS satellites, the Russian GLONAS constellation has 27 satellites. At any time there will always be the odd satellite in maintenance mode, and some non-operational as designated spares in both constellations. So I don't think the Russians are relying on foreign GPS but are getting nice military grade, encrypted, jamming resistant signals from their own satellites.
Of course, like the British army once had to do, they may not have enough military grade GNSS receivers to go around and have to rely on less accurate civilian ones as well as military grade ones, but I'll bet you a penny to pound that if they are those civilian GNNS receivers are tuned to GLONASS.
msuffidy:
You may be able to jam satellites with RF. Taking them over would probably be pretty hard without inside security information. On the topic I was wondering if you could make a ICBM shrapnel shield by all the LEO starlinks having self destructs at the same time?? Guess it depends on how thick their missile plating is.
vad:
--- Quote from: Cerebus on March 02, 2022, 05:39:22 pm ---
--- Quote from: vad on March 02, 2022, 05:02:45 pm ---On the other hand, given the overall state of its military forces, I would not be surprised if Russia does not have operational surveillance and communication satellites at all, or does not have sufficient amount of field equipment that work with satellites that are operational, and rely on foreign services such as GPS instead.
Also, military satellites belong to and are controlled by Russian Aerospace Forces, not Roskosmos.
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FYI the US currently has 28 GPS satellites, the Russian GLONAS constellation has 27 satellites. At any time there will always be the odd satellite in maintenance mode, and some non-operational as designated spares in both constellations. So I don't think the Russians are relying on foreign GPS but are getting nice military grade, encrypted, jamming resistant signals from their own satellites.
Of course, like the British army once had to do, they may not have enough military grade GNSS receivers to go around and have to rely on less accurate civilian ones as well as military grade ones, but I'll bet you a penny to pound that if they are those civilian GNNS receivers are tuned to GLONASS.
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There were reports that Russian ground troops do not use / are not equipped with receivers. This could mean anything. Maybe the reason is that they did not expect to fight ground war. Maybe they don’t have sufficient supply of receivers.
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