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| Georgy.Moshkin:
First of all, I must note that client have a good point that I am --- Quote ---paid to provide a service. Anything part of that service becomes property of the person that is paying you. --- End quote --- I haven't received any payments yet. What I don't like is this: --- Quote ---I am open to allowing you to create open source _some thing_, but cannot be related to _certain types of common user interfaces_ until 20 years has passed --- End quote --- --- Quote ---You won't be able to sell anything related to _certain types of common user interfaces_ --- End quote --- Does it make any sense? My argument is that with these or similar requirements I will not be able to use any technology very soon. |
| Siwastaja:
Sure that is normal. You would usually agree to not compete for some time as the part of the deal, like 6 months, maybe a year if the deal is good otherwise. For 20 years as suggested, you just state your price for the 20-year deal of non-competition on the field, something like $20 million would sound like a reasonable starting point, depending on the actual "width" of the clause. Remember not to only think your salary, but the future prospects if you made it a successful business; long timeframes like 20 years are problematic because the cost would be prohibitively high, in fact I think $20 million would be a bargain. Remember, you can always sign a deal which limits you for a long time, but do not sell your soul for cheap. And don't argue, for each ridiculous requirement they have you state your conditions and if they are not happy with it, then good riddance, you don't have a deal. |
| MT:
--- Quote from: Georgy.Moshkin on November 01, 2023, 12:37:51 pm ---First of all, I must note that client have a good point that I am --- Quote ---paid to provide a service. Anything part of that service becomes property of the person that is paying you. --- End quote --- I haven't received any payments yet. What I don't like is this: --- Quote ---I am open to allowing you to create open source _some thing_, but cannot be related to _certain types of common user interfaces_ until 20 years has passed --- End quote --- --- Quote ---You won't be able to sell anything related to _certain types of common user interfaces_ --- End quote --- Does it make any sense? My argument is that with these or similar requirements I will not be able to use any technology very soon. --- End quote --- Complete normal garbage contract! Any contract of this type shall always be scrutinized by a lawyer specialized in these types of contracts to iron out all the garbage before signing. Actually YOU should have had done a "my terms" list before doing bissniss. You really want to sell your soul for 20 years to a customer whos intention is to enslave you for nothing. |
| tggzzz:
--- Quote from: Georgy.Moshkin on November 01, 2023, 12:37:51 pm ---First of all, I must note that client have a good point that I am --- Quote ---paid to provide a service. Anything part of that service becomes property of the person that is paying you. --- End quote --- I haven't received any payments yet. What I don't like is this: --- Quote ---I am open to allowing you to create open source _some thing_, but cannot be related to _certain types of common user interfaces_ until 20 years has passed --- End quote --- --- Quote ---You won't be able to sell anything related to _certain types of common user interfaces_ --- End quote --- Does it make any sense? My argument is that with these or similar requirements I will not be able to use any technology very soon. --- End quote --- In many cases the contract should also contain a clause that title only passes to the purchaser after all money has been paid to you. 20 years for anything generic or common is ridiculous. |
| rstofer:
Walk away! Or run... In 4 US states (including California), non-competes are banned and unenforceable. I'm not sure how it works in Hong Kong. Ask around. I would be surprised if they last longer than a couple of years if they exist at all. Technology changes too fast! I sure wouldn't tie up my career for a one-off contract that lasts a lifetime. |
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