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Can these old pictures be recovered?
« on: January 24, 2021, 01:26:32 pm »
I have some old pictures from 2016 that are corrupted and i would very much like to recover them. But can they be recovered?
When i check the properties tab they show up as ~1.5meg in size and show the correct date so they're not completely gone but the images themselves are pretty messed up.
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Re: Can these old pictures be recovered?
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2021, 01:30:07 pm »
File type and upon what file system?
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Re: Can these old pictures be recovered?
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2021, 01:47:00 pm »
File type and upon what file system?
These are .jpeg and they came from an SD card from my old phone (Z1 compact).
Oddly enough all the other pictures are fine but the ones i need are corrupted.
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Re: Can these old pictures be recovered?
« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2021, 02:48:59 pm »
I would need to see an original file to ascertain where or how the data is damaged. A corrupted jpeg looks like random set of colored blocks followed by black or no image. What are these, images of the moon or the inside of a pocket? It's possible that just a tiny fragment of the image is being stretched out into the frame to give this cloudy texture. But without an orginal, I could not say if they can be reclaimed. :(
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Re: Can these old pictures be recovered?
« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2021, 03:01:56 pm »
A corrupted jpeg looks like random set of colored blocks followed by black or no image. ... It's possible that just a tiny fragment of the image is being stretched out into the frame to give this cloudy texture.
I was expecting blocks, but I guess that's a plausible mechanism to get this cloudy image.

Some JPEG decoders cope better than others with bad files, it's worth trying a few and seeing if you get any different results.
 

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Re: Can these old pictures be recovered?
« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2021, 03:16:41 pm »
I would need to see an original file to ascertain where or how the data is damaged. A corrupted jpeg looks like random set of colored blocks followed by black or no image. What are these, images of the moon or the inside of a pocket? It's possible that just a tiny fragment of the image is being stretched out into the frame to give this cloudy texture. But without an orginal, I could not say if they can be reclaimed. :(
The pictures were supposed to be from when i was rebuilding the engine in my car, i need to see if they contain the engine registration number.
But when i checked the dates with one picture from when i was just pulling the car into the garage before the rebuild it's from 2017 so i actually don't know what's in these jpegs.  :-//
So i guess it could very well be that they're supposed to look like this?  :-//
But why would there be a whopping 91 of these.
Anyways, it looks like the pictures i'm looking for might be in my old phone, which got smashed during the rebuild.  :-BROKE
That's what i get for keeping my phone in my pocket when fumbling the engine back into the engine bay.  :palm:
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Re: Can these old pictures be recovered?
« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2021, 03:19:04 pm »
A corrupted jpeg looks like random set of colored blocks followed by black or no image. ... It's possible that just a tiny fragment of the image is being stretched out into the frame to give this cloudy texture.
I was expecting blocks, but I guess that's a plausible mechanism to get this cloudy image.

Some JPEG decoders cope better than others with bad files, it's worth trying a few and seeing if you get any different results.

The Samsung Galaxy standard camera app used to have a nasty problem with the jpg encoder only when shooting in panorama. Reading them back on desktop Linux was a no go. Somebody made a python script to reorder the tags in the file, but I never could establish if the phone software was simply following a standard or if the generic open source jpeg reader was broken. The problem disappeared after an update and a wait of about 3 years.

Not saying this is the OP's problem but I wonder if there may have been a setting on the camera during the time of those affected files. Are the file sizes unusual?

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/46802866/how-to-detect-if-the-jpg-jpeg-image-file-is-corruptedincomplete

There's a bit of info on what to look for if you wanna get your hands dirty.
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Re: Can these old pictures be recovered?
« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2021, 03:39:00 pm »
To me they look like the lens was covered by a finger. Even the vignetting from the optical system in the corners is visible. So I don't think there's something wrong with the file data in itself. Corrupting data to reassemble such images but not creating a single JPEG glitch would be extremely unlikely (as of close to impossible unlikely).

Errors in JPEGs more look like that: https://snorpey.github.io/jpg-glitch/ (To my understanding if you set "Iterations" to 1 a single byte will changed to the value "Amount" at a random position, based on "Seed"). Depending on the position the error is not visible or only changes the brightness. Others get easily visible.

Edit: You should check the embedded Thumbnails. For example using jhead to extract the image:
Code: [Select]
cd <to your images>
jhead -st "thumbnail.jpg" DSC_0550.jpg
This extracts the embedded thumbnail into a file you can open with any image viewer.
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Re: Can these old pictures be recovered?
« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2021, 03:57:59 pm »
To me they look like the lens was covered by a finger. Even the vignetting from the optical system in the corners is visible. So I don't think there's something wrong with the file data in itself. Corrupting data to reassemble such images but not creating a single JPEG glitch would be extremely unlikely (as of close to impossible unlikely).
I think you're right. I assumed these were the pics i wanted because the pics from before the rebuild and right after were present and these were the only ones i couldn't explain, so i assumed these were the missing pics of the rebuild that were corrupted somehow.
But things don't add up once i check the dates, so be it bigfoot, UFO, or just my hand on the camera, these are not the pictures i'm looking for  :)
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Re: Can these old pictures be recovered?
« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2021, 04:02:08 pm »
 ;D

I have heaps of photos of my feet.
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