Can you make an apple computer (an 'OS'os) like you can with a PC and windows?

[Beamin]

Why can't you build an apple system? Does it have a processor that is like an ARM chip where you can run Linux but not windows? Why can't windows talk to an apple processor, what ever apple calls there chips? Can you put Linux on an apple computer? I kind of like apple but hate how nothing will plug into it. Not even head phones. 

[Cerebus]

[Fx: wind and tumbleweeds]

[ataradov]

Why can't you build an apple system?

Because MAC OS is not for sale. It is only available as part of the MAC.

EDIT: And if you are OK with stealing, then google 'hackintosh'.

Does it have a processor that is like an ARM chip where you can run Linux but not windows?

No, all current MACs have standard Intel processors.

Why can't windows talk to an apple processor, what ever apple calls there chips?

It can. You can freely run Windows on Apple hardware.

Can you put Linux on an apple computer?

Yes, you can. What peripherals will work is up to specific Linux distro and hardware.

I kind of like apple but hate how nothing will plug into it. Not even head phones. 

How is installing Windows or Linux helps here?

[sleemanj]

You can if you *really* want to, but it will violate the terms of the OS and you need to pick the right hardware for compatability.  Google hackintosh.

[RGB255_0_0]

You ask some of the most interesting and weirdest questions. 

[rstofer]

Which do you want to know about, cell phones or computers?

The cell phones are probably using ARM processors although there may be some ASIC stuff around the outside.  I haven't looked.

The Apple Computers use conventional (in the PC sense) processors.  There is no reason you couldn't blow off OSx (or MacOS or whatever they call it today) and load windows EXCEPT that you might need drivers that might not exist.  However, according to Google, there are two ways to run Win 10 on an Apple computer:
https://www.theverge.com/2015/7/29/9058825/windows-10-macbook-how-to-install-osx

Again, there is no reason you couldn't run Linux except drivers (perhaps):
http://www.macworld.co.uk/how-to/mac/how-install-linux-on-mac-3637265/

I don't see how Linux could possibly be an improvement over Unix!

If you don't like the way Apple products work, why buy them?

[tooki]

Why can't you build an apple system? Does it have a processor that is like an ARM chip where you can run Linux but not windows? Why can't windows talk to an apple processor, what ever apple calls there chips? Can you put Linux on an apple computer? I kind of like apple but hate how nothing will plug into it. Not even head phones.

You've obviously never even looked at an Apple computer, never mind used one, since literally every single Mac ever made, from 1984 through today, has a 3.5mm audio output.

Nor have you done any homework whatsoever, or you'd have quickly learned what CPUs Apple used in different products over the years.

Or that every Intel-based Mac comes with a tool called Boot Camp to let you install Windows (including the optimal drivers for each component).

Or how every Mac since 1998 has USB, same as everyone else.

In other words, you've worded your question from a place of lazy ignorance, based on stereotypes, not facts.

[tszaboo]

Because apple is using security torx, and it is impossible to buy screwdrivers for it.

[Richard Crowley]

Because apple is using security torx, and it is impossible to buy screwdrivers for it.

Here in USA (and online) security drivers are available everywhere.

The question seems rather ill-researched and based on misinformation.

[tszaboo]

Because apple is using security torx, and it is impossible to buy screwdrivers for it.

Here in USA (and online) security drivers are available everywhere.

The question seems rather ill-researched and based on misinformation.

Sorry, I thought this was the stupid answers to stupid questions board.

[tooki]

Because apple is using security torx, and it is impossible to buy screwdrivers for it.

Heheheh. Yeah, if the gas station doesn't stock the screwdriver for it, it's garbage! LOL!

[Someone]

Because apple is using security torx, and it is impossible to buy screwdrivers for it.

Here in USA (and online) security drivers are available everywhere.

The question seems rather ill-researched and based on misinformation.

Sorry, I thought this was the stupid answers to stupid questions board.

Some torx, mostly phillips, and a sprinkling of pentalobe for extra frustration (jam a flat blade driver into it instead of buying more tools).

[Macbeth]

Heh, Apple Mac owners are all form over function, and gladly pay premium for their fashion statements.

Damn it, I remember well over a decade ago I found my now (then) aging ATI Radeon (8500/9500 iirc?) graphics card was exactly the same as the official Apple product. IIRC it just needed a firmware change and sold it on ebay as an "Apple compatible" for 10x what it was worth as a long in the tooth PC card - but it was still half of what Apple were selling their top of the range card for.

Of course it was snatched instantly. I should have charged more, but I even made a profit on it!!!

[Mr. Scram]

Heh, Apple Mac owners are all form over function, and gladly pay premium for their fashion statements.

Damn it, I remember well over a decade ago I found my now (then) aging ATI Radeon (8500/9500 iirc?) graphics card was exactly the same as the official Apple product. IIRC it just needed a firmware change and sold it on ebay as an "Apple compatible" for 10x what it was worth as a long in the tooth PC card - but it was still half of what Apple were selling their top of the range card for.

Of course it was snatched instantly. I should have charged more, but I even made a profit on it!!!

Second hand Apple prices are something that surprise me every time. You can sell a severely water damaged, inoperable and ageing Apple laptop for more money than some new and half decent laptops from other brands costs. I guess it can be considered both an advantage and a problem. Your Apple hardware is not going to lose value soon, but spares will cost you.

[helius]

There is a specific driver in MacOS that endeavors to verify it is running on authorized hardware. The magic string it encodes contains "Please don't steal MacOS! Really, that's way uncool."

You've obviously never even looked at an Apple computer, never mind used one, since literally every single Mac ever made, from 1984 through today, has a 3.5mm audio output.

The Macintosh XL doesn't have an audio port. Neither does the PowerBook Duo unless you use a dongle.

[BradC]

There is a specific driver in MacOS that endeavors to verify it is running on authorized hardware. The magic string it encodes contains "Please don't steal MacOS! Really, that's way uncool."

No it doesn't. It contains a copyrighted string which Apple uses to request removal when it appears on the web and which any owner of a Mac can pull from the SMC. Not difficult to find though if you look for the SMC OSK string, but it's certainly not what you stated it is.

[Brumby]

Not difficult to find though if you look for the SMC OSK string, but it's certainly not what you stated it is.

No ... but it would be a lot funnier.   

[tooki]

Heh, Apple Mac owners are all form over function, and gladly pay premium for their fashion statements.

That is, of course, absolute nonsense 99% of the time.

Heck, my primary computer is a Mac Pro tower, stuck on a shelf out of sight, while the objects on my desk, visible, are an HP display on an Ergotron arm, a Filco keyboard, a Logitech mouse and webcam, Sony speakers (actually a stereo, not PC speakers), and one solitary Apple device: the Magic Trackpad.

What people pay for is gadgets that just work. Are Apple products perfect? Absolutely not. But they work well, almost all of the time.

Second hand Apple prices are something that surprise me every time. You can sell a severely water damaged, inoperable and ageing Apple laptop for more money than some new and half decent laptops from other brands costs. I guess it can be considered both an advantage and a problem. Your Apple hardware is not going to lose value soon, but spares will cost you.

Yep, it surprises me, too. But what it also means is that you can sell your used gear for far more than non-Apple gear of the same age, meaning that your actual TCO is often lower. (Apple products routinely realize substantial TCO savings over Windows/Android devices, despite sometimes costing more to purchase up-front.)

[tooki]

You've obviously never even looked at an Apple computer, never mind used one, since literally every single Mac ever made, from 1984 through today, has a 3.5mm audio output.

The Macintosh XL doesn't have an audio port. Neither does the PowerBook Duo unless you use a dongle.

Well, I don't consider the Mac XL really a Mac, since it's really just a Lisa 2 with a Mac emulator app. But you are right about the Duos, I forgot that they only had audio output on the docks!

[tooki]

FYI, I think we all fell for a troll anyway -- the OP hasn't responded, and several of their other recent threads are also just shit-stirring...

[Mr. Scram]

FYI, I think we all fell for a troll anyway -- the OP hasn't responded, and several of their other recent threads are also just shit-stirring...

Don't attribute to malicious intent that which might be attributed to ignorance. If even a small percentage of people called out as trolls on the web actually were to be trolls, we'd all be in deep trouble.

[bd139]

20 years of IT experience says:

1. If I want to be paid to fix shit, I'll use windows
2. If I want to be paid to configure shit, I'll use Linux
3. If I want to be paid to create things, I'll use MacOS.

I want to create things.

[tooki]

FYI, I think we all fell for a troll anyway -- the OP hasn't responded, and several of their other recent threads are also just shit-stirring...

Don't attribute to malicious intent that which might be attributed to ignorance. If even a small percentage of people called out as trolls on the web actually were to be trolls, we'd all be in deep trouble.

Well, I wish I could agree, but having met more and more people who openly admit to trolling even in real-life, face-to-face conversations, I've become more cynical...

[Cerebus]

FYI, I think we all fell for a troll anyway -- the OP hasn't responded, and several of their other recent threads are also just shit-stirring...

I mistakenly thought that the general populace had cottoned on to that, hence the second post from me; I rather hoped that folks would get the joke and build on it. Ho hum ...

[Cerebus]

Don't attribute to malicious intent that which might be attributed to ignorance.

Which is fine in a first appraisal. Read a few threads that beamin has started and taken part in and your assessment might change. Fool me once, shame on me, fool me 17 times, ya can call me dubya.