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| armandine2:
--- Quote from: ganymede on April 29, 2023, 06:59:02 pm ---so far all I've done is write documents and waste a lot of time in meetings, time that I could have otherwise spent studying to get better at power stuff. ... --- End quote --- Yes a career is all about time - to progress you will be expected to cover various demands that are secondary, and there is no otherwise. |
| ebastler:
--- Quote from: ganymede on April 29, 2023, 06:59:02 pm ---Hello everyone. [...] --- End quote --- As a general bit of career advice: If you ask people for advice, they tend to appreciate if you actively listen, provide feedback and follow-up, get a dialog going. It's been more than a week since you asked your question; a dozen people have contributed to the thread; you have been back on the forum regularly -- but have not acknowledged any of the replies here, or provided clarification in response to questions asked. This comes across as impolite, and does not help you to get value out of the advice provided. The same holds true for your interactions and learning on the job, of course. Edit: Typos. |
| Bud:
--- Quote from: rstofer on May 03, 2023, 05:09:33 pm --- I spent most of my career as a project manager --- End quote --- That is why you like Microsoft Project. Engineers do not give shit to Microsoft Project. It is the project manager's job to create schedules and chase people down. If as an engineer I start waving my MS Project's schedule in front of my colleagues demanding them to meet the schedule on their part it is a sure way for me Not to get a result. Getting results from the peers is achieved using different means and is 80% behind the scene. Edit: and by the way, nobody would assign an intern to be a project manager because of the simple reason that he does not have intimate knowledge of the organization yet, let alone having relevant experience. |
| nigelwright7557:
Rather than just dump the job you have, stick with it while looking for something better. I was in a job with vindictive boss who was always trying to replace me but couldn't. I just waited for a better opportunity to come along then left. 3 months later first company went bust. |
| Rick Law:
Perhaps they are attempting to discern your communication skills as well as your attitude. People are often enthusiastic in dealing with things they like doing, but lethargic in dealing with things not of their interest. Most jobs or projects will have necessary tasks that are interesting, as well as having necessary tasks that are boring, annoying or repetitive. One needs to get all necessary tasks done, interesting or otherwise. To discern what you will be doing as you gain experience, look at those already experienced. Do they attend lots of meetings? Write a lot? If so, that is the culture of that organization, take it or leave it. If not, you know as you gain experience you will eventually "graduate" out of having to do those meetings and writings or at least doing less of that. Writing and meeting are actually good ways to make yourself known in your organization. Others reading your document will likely consider you knowledgeable for that subject matter. They may even consider you an expert for that subject matter. They may draw on you as a consulting resource in the future. Opportunity may come from that. Their opinion of you certainly will be formed in accordance with the quality of your writing. You can give a good first impression to others without even knowing them. Meeting affords you face time with others -- some may have projects you like more, some may be able to pull you up the ladder, so look at writing and meeting as opportunities rather than chores. You will find ways to benefit from these boring tasks if you do them with equal devotion and enthusiasm. |
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