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| IanB:
I think this is another "drive-by poster". No feedback, no response to questions. |
| Psi:
--- Quote from: Bud on May 07, 2023, 03:11:15 pm ---Engineers do not give shit to Microsoft Project. It is the project manager's job to create schedules and chase people down. If as an engineer I start waving my MS Project's schedule in front of my colleagues demanding them to meet the schedule on their part it is a sure way for me Not to get a result. --- End quote --- Ah yes, the age old problem. The managers and higher ups want a well managed and well scheduled project with deliverables on time and on budget. Meanwhile the engineers are dealing with a project to create a new product, something which does not exist until after they have created it. Something with many unknowns and even worse, unknown unknowns. The project may get to 99% complete and some totally unexpected and totally unpredictable issue might pop up requiring the design go back to square one RnD. |
| rstofer:
--- Quote from: Bud on May 07, 2023, 03:11:15 pm --- --- Quote from: rstofer on May 03, 2023, 05:09:33 pm --- I spent most of my career as a project manager --- End quote --- That is why you like Microsoft Project. Engineers do not give shit to Microsoft Project. It is the project manager's job to create schedules and chase people down. If as an engineer I start waving my MS Project's schedule in front of my colleagues demanding them to meet the schedule on their part it is a sure way for me Not to get a result. Getting results from the peers is achieved using different means and is 80% behind the scene. Edit: and by the way, nobody would assign an intern to be a project manager because of the simple reason that he does not have intimate knowledge of the organization yet, let alone having relevant experience. --- End quote --- Of course an intern won't be a project manager but it might be good for the intern to shadow a project manager for awhile. Maybe they will learn to detect when they're being played. In my case, not only was there a multitude of players, they all worked for different companies. There were often severe financial penalties for non-performance, at least to the owner. I worked for the owner and we weren't in the business of building buildings, we wanted to make chips but we couldn't make chips until the building was complete and first to market always wins. Second place to market is the first place loser. Every contractor used the same software for setting up their schedule and these were stuffed back in the master schedule. Another use of the master schedule was to determine what percentage of completion we were looking at when it came time for the contractors' monthly progress payments. By nature, contractors overestimate the percent of completion and owners underestimate it. The man with the master schedule controls cash flow! I didn't do engineering, I bought engineering. I never really wanted to do drafting board level engineering and I didn't care for CAD all that much either. I wanted to go out and play. The education was just table stakes. |
| Ed.Kloonk:
--- Quote from: IanB on May 16, 2023, 10:05:43 pm ---I think this is another "drive-by poster". No feedback, no response to questions. --- End quote --- Makes you wonder, doesn't it? |
| strawberry:
--- Quote from: nctnico on April 29, 2023, 08:31:43 pm ---1) Finish your university education. Without that, your chances of getting hired for a real electronics job are small. --- End quote --- possible reason noone is even considering to hire even I am teaching those educated in electronics about what is transistor... fun stuf 8) |
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