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CES 2018 Standout products... For whatever reason
« on: January 10, 2018, 12:26:55 pm »
I think we should have a thread for the products introduced at CES2018 that stand out as true innovations/good/bad/plain ugly/disasters.

Here's one I spotted for the latter category:

The iKeyp smart safe...     :-DD

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/technology-42634501/ces-2018-ikeyp-smart-safe-proves-easy-to-crack-open
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Re: CES Standout products... For whatever reason
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2018, 12:30:50 pm »
... and one that probably qualifies for the first category... The LG large rollable OLED screen...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/technology-42600884/ces-2018-lg-display-shows-off-large-rollable-tv-screen
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Re: CES Standout products... For whatever reason
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2018, 12:41:49 pm »
... and one that probably qualifies for the first category... The LG large rollable OLED screen...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/technology-42600884/ces-2018-lg-display-shows-off-large-rollable-tv-screen
They've been promising and demoing rollable OLED for what, 20 years now?
 

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Re: CES 2018 Standout products... For whatever reason
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2018, 12:46:22 pm »
I suspect that it's the first time they've done it with something as big as a 65" 4k one though. That's pretty impressive - maybe move it to the 'good' category then.
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Re: CES 2018 Standout products... For whatever reason
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2018, 12:59:09 pm »
Maybe a 'Questionable' category too...

The Kodak Cryptocurrency KodakCoin / Bitcoin miner:

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-42630136
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« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2018, 01:10:37 pm »
Kodak really know how to fuck up a brand at this point.
 

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« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2018, 01:14:30 pm »
Maybe a 'Questionable' category too...

The Kodak Cryptocurrency KodakCoin / Bitcoin miner:

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-42630136
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Re: CES 2018 Standout products... For whatever reason
« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2018, 05:57:19 pm »
Just watched the video on the iKeyp safe, so much fail there.
Clearly the 'p' at the end stands for Piece of ....

I expected better from a major consumer electronics show, this is Indigogo quality.
 

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Re: CES 2018 Standout products... For whatever reason
« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2018, 06:57:25 pm »
The rollable OLED screen is cool, but I can't imagine actually needing one. Just give me a nice big reliable OLED monitor with a sturdy frame and a bunch of HDMI inputs. I don't need gimmicks, I don't want it curved, I don't care about 3D, it doesn't have to be any thinner than the thickest part, I don't want "smart" features built in, I just want a monitor with a great picture.

Having it rollable is just going to make it more expensive and complex, add many additional potential failure points and you need a bulky box for it to roll up into along with the mechanical bits. It could be handy in a few niche custom installs but it's mostly a status symbol.
 

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« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2018, 08:06:23 pm »
I agree completely about potential failure points etc., however the way screen sizes are exploding at the moment, it might be a solution to the huge light sucking black rectangle. That's assuming that we don't start leaving them on with a scenic screensaver the whole time! Other potential solutions will doubtless appear.

For now, I'll stick with my old projector for the big screen experience.
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Re: CES 2018 Standout products... For whatever reason
« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2018, 08:31:39 pm »
Flashlight(torch) candle or some sort of light.
 

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« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2018, 09:09:28 pm »
It looks as if the Technology has started revolting now - too many light suckers, it must be really dark in there!  :scared:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-42639780
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Re: CES 2018 Standout products... For whatever reason
« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2018, 09:54:06 pm »
I think we should have a thread for the products introduced at CES2018 that stand out as true innovations/good/bad/plain ugly/disasters.

Here's one I spotted for the latter category:

The iKeyp smart safe...     :-DD

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/technology-42634501/ces-2018-ikeyp-smart-safe-proves-easy-to-crack-open
A plastic box that tells you your stuff is gone sounds like a great idea. It's almost as if they were trying to build a poster child for IoT failures.

As a side note, ever noticed how many permissions and scripts the BBC site requires to run? As long as you just read articles it's not so bad, but don't try to actually play a video.
 

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« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2018, 10:02:50 pm »
We get a different BBC site here in the U.K. without all the crap on it so I’m happy  :-DD
 

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« Reply #14 on: January 10, 2018, 10:19:21 pm »
We get a different BBC site here in the U.K. without all the crap on it so I’m happy  :-DD
I'm talking about the UK site, though the international one is just as bad.
 

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« Reply #15 on: January 10, 2018, 10:32:33 pm »
Ah I’ve got ublock running. Seems to kill all that.

Apparently there was a massive power failure at CES  :-DD

https://techcrunch.com/2018/01/10/the-day-the-lights-went-out-at-ces/
 

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« Reply #16 on: January 10, 2018, 10:52:23 pm »
Ah I’ve got ublock running. Seems to kill all that.

Apparently there was a massive power failure at CES  :-DD

https://techcrunch.com/2018/01/10/the-day-the-lights-went-out-at-ces/
That's the problem, you need to allow all sorts of things before a simple video can play. It's not about the crap thrown at you, it's the crap you need to allow to get anywhere.  Some sites are much worse than others and the BCC site seems to be consistently terrible. It has been for years.

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Re: CES 2018 Standout products... For whatever reason
« Reply #17 on: January 10, 2018, 10:53:24 pm »
I agree completely about potential failure points etc., however the way screen sizes are exploding at the moment, it might be a solution to the huge light sucking black rectangle. That's assuming that we don't start leaving them on with a scenic screensaver the whole time! Other potential solutions will doubtless appear.

For now, I'll stick with my old projector for the big screen experience.

Set the TV into the wall and have doors, curtains, a painting, etc close over it when not in use. If one really wanted a fancy disappearing setup it wouldn't be hard in many situations to mount a big TV like a pocket door that vanishes into a slot down into a piece of furniture or into the wall. I think the rollup screen will fill the same niche market, rich people who are willing to pay high prices for cute gimmicks they can show off in their media room.

It will probably only have 2 or 3 HDMI inputs too, and a horrid integrated "smart" system that is hopelessly obsolete after 2 or 3 years, and a user interface that makes it as difficult as possible to switch inputs.
 

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Re: CES 2018 Standout products... For whatever reason
« Reply #18 on: January 11, 2018, 02:54:09 am »
update on the cause of the blackout from the link above.

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Today at approximately 11:15 AM, the Central Hall and South Hall bridge meeting rooms at the Las Vegas Convention Center lost power. Power in the South Hall was restored within minutes, and power has now been fully restored to all areas. A preliminary assessment indicates that condensation from heavy rainfall caused a flashover on one of the facility’s transformers. We are grateful to NV Energy for their swift assistance, to our customers and their clients for their patience and to the staff for ensuring the safety and security of all attendees and exhibitors.
 

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« Reply #19 on: January 11, 2018, 03:16:02 am »
update on the cause of the blackout from the link above.

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Today at approximately 11:15 AM, the Central Hall and South Hall bridge meeting rooms at the Las Vegas Convention Center lost power. Power in the South Hall was restored within minutes, and power has now been fully restored to all areas. A preliminary assessment indicates that condensation from heavy rainfall caused a flashover on one of the facility’s transformers. We are grateful to NV Energy for their swift assistance, to our customers and their clients for their patience and to the staff for ensuring the safety and security of all attendees and exhibitors.

Aww...I was hoping it was a bunch of IOT wank appliances that went kerplooy and knocked out the power. >:D

EDIT: Maybe their "smart transformer" got a virus and they just said it was rain. :P I just hope that doesn't ever actually happen.
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Re: CES 2018 Standout products... For whatever reason
« Reply #20 on: January 12, 2018, 11:28:12 am »
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/technology-42658211/ces-2018-hushme-mask-lets-users-make-private-calls

 :palm: :palm: :palm: :palm: :palm: :palm:

Edit: Actually ... these should be compulsory if you want to use your phone on a plane or train ....
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« Reply #21 on: January 12, 2018, 11:49:07 am »
Oh I don't know, I can think of the odd prominent figure who would benefit from one of those!  :-DD
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« Reply #22 on: January 12, 2018, 01:33:56 pm »
 Certainly an improvement from that giant Cone of Silence. Now if they can just build it into a shoe...
 

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Re: CES 2018 Standout products... For whatever reason
« Reply #23 on: January 13, 2018, 01:53:46 am »
Maybe a 'Questionable' category too...

The Kodak Cryptocurrency KodakCoin / Bitcoin miner:

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...- will use about the same amount of electricity as running a hairdryer around the clock. 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-42630136
Looks just like a rebadged Antminer, complete with the exposed top part of the PCBs that make it harder to stack them.
8 months to breaking even isn't good at all for an ASIC box. Such a payback period would be acceptable for GPUs that have other uses. (I personally broke even on my Avalon 4.1 in about 3 months not counting the substantial increase in Bitcoin price. I miss the days when cheap smartphones would pay for themselves in a week, but smartphone coins tend to be quite short lived.)
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« Reply #24 on: January 13, 2018, 04:29:35 pm »
« Last Edit: January 13, 2018, 04:31:41 pm by Cyberdragon »
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« Reply #25 on: January 13, 2018, 10:49:04 pm »
More CES products from the Indigogo Robot department.

CES Was Full of Useless Robots and Machines That Don’t Work
https://amp.thedailybeast.com/ces-was-full-of-useless-robots-and-machines-that-dont-work

Read the article, too much fail to simply into a few quotes.
 
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Re: CES 2018 Standout products... For whatever reason
« Reply #26 on: January 15, 2018, 02:57:13 am »
here is some thing
cars without steering wheels or pedals.   :-DD like to see how you get one on a flatbed tow truck. tie cable around a wheel hub and pull for removal from the street curb.



GM’s driverless car without a steering wheel or pedals  :palm:
GM’s big plans to deploy autonomous vehicles, and right before the detroit Auto Show
driverless cars may benefit a disabled person who is unable to drive  :-//
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« Reply #27 on: January 15, 2018, 08:21:51 am »
More CES products from the Indigogo Robot department.

CES Was Full of Useless Robots and Machines That Don’t Work
https://amp.thedailybeast.com/ces-was-full-of-useless-robots-and-machines-that-dont-work

Read the article, too much fail to simply into a few quotes.

I think the title says it all.

We’ve got to the point that real practical innovation is pretty difficult to bring to market now. In the 1960s it might take 6 months to develop a new product. In the 1980s a year. Now, the wall to climb over is a decade long one by which time your investors will be out. Ergo people just kick out “burner products” that satisfy the investors with some long term fish-hookery via staged demos. Look at Asimo for example. Zero deliverables.  Boston Dynamics kick out stuff more impressive than a robot that falls down stairs on a stage.

So we end up with shit that is pointless. They burned that one out so it’s now shit that is pointless that you have to connect to the internet before it works. I don’t need to make coffee in the kitchen from an app. Even I can get off my fat arse and put a kettle on.
 
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Re: CES 2018 Standout products... For whatever reason
« Reply #28 on: January 16, 2018, 08:20:29 pm »
here is some thing
cars without steering wheels or pedals.   :-DD like to see how you get one on a flatbed tow truck. tie cable around a wheel hub and pull for removal from the street curb.

In a sense we've had those for a long time, they're called "buses", "taxis" or "trains". If I don't get to drive it myself then I have no interest in owning/parking/maintaining/insuring a car, I'd just use mass transit. I could get a lot of Uber/Lyft rides for the cost of a car payment. I like driving a car though, that's the main reason I own one and put up with the hassle and expense.
 


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