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CEX CPU Packaging
Zero999:
--- Quote from: MrMobodies on July 11, 2022, 04:28:17 am ---
--- Quote from: Zero999 on July 09, 2022, 08:26:36 pm ---I got some RAM from ebay and it was packaged in polystyrene foam, so I returned it for a refund. I was actually lucky, because I made a mistake and ordered the wrong type, so I had an excuse to return it. I did order the right type, but from a different supplier who fortunately packaged it properly.
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Years ago on Ebay I had things sent in all sorts of unsuitable packaging including regular plastic shopping bags which I found unexpected at the time so I started to remind sellers not to forget the anti static bag.
This year quite few sellers don't seem to bother and ignore my request and reminders in the order notes. I now tell them that if it arrives in a non anti static bag, I will class it as dead on arrival, open a case for a full refund and demand for a return where the seller either pays for the return and issue me a returns form or they can come and pick it up themselves.
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You don't even need to do that. When I returned it, there was an option to say it was packaged inappropriately.
bd139:
--- Quote from: tom66 on July 10, 2022, 05:43:10 pm ---
--- Quote from: bd139 on July 10, 2022, 05:34:12 pm ---The other side of the fence is the worst though. They screw over the people selling the stuff to them.
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In what way? They might offer you a low price for it, but then you don't have to deal with eBay/gumtree/etc. which is a nightmare on its own. Kind of like how selling your car to a dealer will always get you less price than going private but then you've got all the risks of a private sale.
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The pricing differences are terrible to the point of being predatory.
Hardware £500 new
EBay price £350
CEX offer price £150
CEX sale price £420
When CEX and Cash Converters are the only place available to you to sell your assets to make ends meet, which is realistic in a lot of places, it’s predatory. I know someone who was in debt and needed to clear stuff out quickly and they got utterly screwed.
Siwastaja:
--- Quote from: niconiconi on July 10, 2022, 01:31:25 am ---At this point, I'm quite surprised about how rare we see ESD damages in electronics.
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Yet, random unexplained failures which are never investigated are common in electronics.
The problem with ESD is indeed delayed damage.
My observation is, people who don't take ESD seriously (and I don't mean you need to buy all expensive crap; no, pretty simple mitigation strategies are good enough; I mean people who deny the existence of the issue), also seem to struggle with... everything. It is hard to say if it is just correlation ("those big shots are not going to tell me what to do!" IQ90 Dunning-Kruger, so that the same attitude causes other problems, too), or whether there is correlation involved (hidden ESD damage causing problems, and these people being unable to connect the dots). These people just shrug off the problem as one-off unexplained incident which is "just normal".
In reality of course, decent ESD practices cost almost nothing to implement. Static shielding bags cost next to nothing and can be reused numerous times, so you normally don't need to buy them, just decide to use them instead of throwing them into trash. Tabletop ESD mat which comes with a grounding clip costs like $20 and lasts for years or even decades, and that is pretty much all you need to buy.
tom66:
--- Quote from: bd139 on July 11, 2022, 07:55:34 am ---When CEX and Cash Converters are the only place available to you to sell your assets to make ends meet, which is realistic in a lot of places, it’s predatory. I know someone who was in debt and needed to clear stuff out quickly and they got utterly screwed.
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The general rule for retail is that the price for items in the store is about 2-3x what it cost to manufacture.
So it's not surprising that they offer around half to buy it as they sell it for. They have rent, electricity, staff and insurance costs and they offer a warranty on the products they sell.
If you want to get more you have to do that work yourself. There's absolutely nothing predatory about offering an easy option that gives you less money.
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