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[SolarSunrise]

If you are considering using a really low end Chinese manufacturing services, please don't:

The worst thing is, the loud high pitched guy seems really happy about those solder joints... 

I know not all Chinese hand-manufacturing services are not this bad, but BE AWARE.

But for you cheap people out there, here's how hand soldering is done! Take some notes ladies and gentlemen:


All credit goes to the content uploader, including the Chinese guy. 

[M4trix]

The worst thing is, the loud high pitched guy seems really happy about those solder joints... 

All credit goes to the content uploader, including the Chinese guy. 

I've seen that video before and I couldn't believe my eyes. There are bunch of bad videos on YT showing 'how to solder' and this one is among the worst. 

[nanofrog]

Wow. I don't think I've ever seen anything as bad as that first video. 

[CM800]

Question... where do i get that flux pen they used in the second video... i could do with that...

[jancumps]

But have you seen the results of video 1? Not too bad actualy. (Or do I need to buy glasses?)

[M4trix]

Question... where do i get that flux pen they used in the second video... i could do with that...

You can use one of these,

http://www.newark.com/kester/83-1000-0951/flux-pen-no-clean-0-33fl-oz-pen/dp/82H2047

http://www.newark.com/itw-chemtronics/cw8100/flux-dispensing-pen-no-clean-9g/dp/00Z1870

[nanofrog]

But have you seen the results of video 1? Not too bad actualy. (Or do I need to buy glasses?)

Granted, the close-ups were blurry, but I thought I saw a couple of bridges on the board when she was finished. 

[tom66]

Soldering iron is a bit worn but should still be usable
...
Hmm... well, I don't normally use that much solder to tack the corners, but......
...
Wait, what's she doing? Is she tipping the solder off?
...
Yes, she is tipping the solder off. 

[M4trix]

But have you seen the results of video 1? Not too bad actualy. (Or do I need to buy glasses?)

Granted, the close-ups were blurry, but I thought I saw a couple of bridges on the board when she was finished. 

Looks like Pin1 and Pin2 are bridged. Not sure. 

[Rick]

If you are considering using a really low end Chinese manufacturing services, please don't:

The worst thing is, the loud high pitched guy seems really happy about those solder joints... 

I know not all Chinese hand-manufacturing services are not this bad, but BE AWARE.

But for you cheap people out there, here's how hand soldering is done! Take some notes ladies and gentlemen:


All credit goes to the content uploader, including the Chinese guy. 

They do not look Chinese:)
Either Philippinos or Indonesians. Their language does not sound like Mandarin Chinese anyway. Most probably Philippinos. May be some members from the Philippines can tell us.

[BravoV]

All credit goes to the content uploader, including the Chinese guy. 

They do not look Chinese:)
Either Philippinos or Indonesians. Their language does not sound like Mandarin Chinese anyway. Most probably Philippinos. May be some members from the Philippines can tell us.

Definitely NOT Chinese, but as long they're yellow skinned with weird Engish accent and doing stuff "we"  don't like, just call them Chinese.      <sarcasm:off>

[iloveelectronics]

They do not look Chinese:)
Either Philippinos or Indonesians. Their language does not sound like Mandarin Chinese anyway. Most probably Philippinos. May be some members from the Philippines can tell us.

They are definitely not speaking any form of Chinese. The man looks like he might be Chinese by ethnicity but the woman doesn't look Chinese at all. They must be from one of the south eastern Asian countries, either the Philippines, Thailand, Malaysia, Indonesia, or Singapore. Not saying workers in China aren't using the same "technique" though...LOL!

[kc9qvl]

Yes the new flood and dump technique.
She wasted enough solder to drag solder all the devices on the bench.

Btw its a Hakko 936 or copy. Handle looks just like a 907 and holder exactly like my 936.

[rdl]

I think she did pretty good all things considered. Interesting technique, what you waste in solder you make up for by using no solder wick.

[pickle9000]

Life after Danaher restructuring.

[nanofrog]

Life after Danaher restructuring.

[Jay_Diddy_B]

Hi,

I believe that this is a link for the product being manufactured in the video:

http://www.e-gizmo.com/KIT/CPLD.htm

I searched for "gizmo mechatronix' which is marked on the board.

Gizmo Mechatronix is located in Manila, Philippines, but I don't know where the assembly house is.

Regards,

Jay_Diddy_B

[echen1024]

It's definitely not Chinese. I once visited an assembly house in the Phillipines who told us that "Oh. We use solder tipping. Reduces amount of wick" when I asked about their process. Granted, they died a few months afterwards.

[GEuser]

Pilipino for sure ...

[free_electron]

Sounds like tagalo to me

[con-f-use]

I think she did pretty good all things considered. Interesting technique, what you waste in solder you make up for by using no solder wick.

Pretty good except that she probably overheated the chip, lifted the pads a little, oxidized everything, didn't clean the board, produced a poor joint from the vibration, wasted solder and was proud of it all. You don't need wick or expensive equipment if you do it properly. Also over three minutes? I can do it faster and much better.

[mariush]

Go to 0:40 in the second video in the first post and see how fast he solders that chip that's similar in size to that xilinx.

imho the first video is just... I don't know, it's like they try to win a contest at how cheap and time consuming they could solder something.

They could have also dipped the board in flux, put some solder on iron, drag over pads, put chip on top, move already heated hot air gun over the pads. Half the time, close to perfect solder. 

[BravoV]

Talking about hand soldering, just watch this IPC World Championship Hand Soldering Competition video, looking at the 2013 finalists, I guess we're all doomed.

[SolarSunrise]

Looks no worse than a lot of UK manufacturing. We never managed to make a car that didn't leak or rust away, and a lot of soldering was pretty slap-dash. What I'm saying is that low quality is not a Chinese problem, it's a cost problem. If you want extremely low prices then expect extremely low quality, but equally if you pay a bit more you can get some really nice work done.

You are absolutely right. It's all about cost and the marketing department.

By the way, I'm sorry if I offended anyone by calling them Chinese. I didn't know so my apologies.

[tom66]

Looks no worse than a lot of UK manufacturing. We never managed to make a car that didn't leak or rust away, and a lot of soldering was pretty slap-dash. What I'm saying is that low quality is not a Chinese problem, it's a cost problem. If you want extremely low prices then expect extremely low quality, but equally if you pay a bit more you can get some really nice work done.

Well I don't know much about other manufacturing but I've worked in a company where a great deal of hand soldering is done, on runs under about 5 boards they typically hand soldered as the time to set up the PnP is longer than the hand soldering time. Except if there's a BGA or high density QFN, prototypes and low quantity runs all hand done.

I have some boards here and you couldn't tell the difference between the hand soldered and machine soldered ones. (And that doesn't mean the reflow is bad!)