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Cheapo clock tear up.
DrG:
--- Quote from: joeqsmith on January 05, 2022, 01:56:02 am ---I still ask myself, why....
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/repair/cheap-clock-repair-why/
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That was an interesting thread and I think you you did a good job - happy wife, happy life.
I had no sentimental attachment to this piece of junk (no reference to any wife, ex or otherwise) and I only wish I could remember how much I paid for it - my guess is no more than $5-$6. I suppose I should have put it back together and given it to some starving student whose cell phone battery needed replacement and apple watch got stolen.
I was ready to put it back up and stopped myself. It never did work well and, unlike some wines, I can't believe that 20+ years of ageing would improve this. I disliked having to manually correct the time and it was not particularly ornate in any way. Time to treat myself to an $18 upgrade - living the dream eh? So, hopefully the receiver to Colorado (and it touts some DST switches) on the new one does work and it is as good as it looks online.
CatalinaWOW:
--- Quote from: DrG on January 05, 2022, 03:28:43 am ---
--- Quote from: CatalinaWOW on January 05, 2022, 02:13:04 am ---Lots of entertainment for such a limited subject. I have taken apart quite a few of this type of movement and the number of minor variations on the basic idea is actually kind of impressive. Why bother looking? Standard answer, the same curiosity that led me into an engineering career.
While I have several times contemplated programming up a micro to do some fancier functions than these things do, i just keep buying one of these movements when I want to make a clock. They do the job very well. In my experience they are usually accurate enough to last until the next daylight savings time forced adjustment and they are far cheaper than the pieces I would have to buy for functionality that isn't that compelling.
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So happy that I could be the source of entertainment for you. I have lots of material :) When I searched on that little clock box, I found hundreds of examples and was in the process of trying to locate the patent on this one.
One thing that I do want to comment on is your statements
--- Quote ---Why bother looking? Standard answer, the same curiosity that led me into an engineering career.
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Now, I am not trying to insult you and I trust you know that I would not be too subtle if I were, but those statements whether intended or not, really illustrate to me, some difference between an EE and a Behavioral Scientist. Now, I am happy that curiosity about anything captured your focus, I always am happy to hear about that, assuming the curiosity was not about unscrupulous activities.
I was going to throw the clock out. It was old and crusty and somewhat yellowed. Yes, I did fix it (if you call identifying some oxidation on a contact and cleaning it off, fixing), but that was not going to rejuvenate the age and I did not care to find out if it lost even more accuracy. My point is that such an experience, for me, was driven by a simple curiosity that I have had all my life about anything and it would never inspire me to go into EE.
Instead, the pathological behaviors (my opinion) of folks who become keyboard warriors believing that they are operating anonymously is just one of a kazillion aspects of human behavior that inspired me to go into and stay into the Neurosciences - something I have never regretted over decades of work which I call the best work a person could have - trying to understand the nervous system.
Hey, different strokes for different folks - just saying and, of course, it is what it is :)
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Sorry my response.offended you. Have a nice day.
DrG:
--- Quote from: CatalinaWOW on January 05, 2022, 05:49:38 am ---
--- Quote from: DrG on January 05, 2022, 03:28:43 am ---
--- Quote from: CatalinaWOW on January 05, 2022, 02:13:04 am ---Lots of entertainment for such a limited subject. I have taken apart quite a few of this type of movement and the number of minor variations on the basic idea is actually kind of impressive. Why bother looking? Standard answer, the same curiosity that led me into an engineering career.
While I have several times contemplated programming up a micro to do some fancier functions than these things do, i just keep buying one of these movements when I want to make a clock. They do the job very well. In my experience they are usually accurate enough to last until the next daylight savings time forced adjustment and they are far cheaper than the pieces I would have to buy for functionality that isn't that compelling.
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So happy that I could be the source of entertainment for you. I have lots of material :) When I searched on that little clock box, I found hundreds of examples and was in the process of trying to locate the patent on this one.
One thing that I do want to comment on is your statements
--- Quote ---Why bother looking? Standard answer, the same curiosity that led me into an engineering career.
--- End quote ---
Now, I am not trying to insult you and I trust you know that I would not be too subtle if I were, but those statements whether intended or not, really illustrate to me, some difference between an EE and a Behavioral Scientist. Now, I am happy that curiosity about anything captured your focus, I always am happy to hear about that, assuming the curiosity was not about unscrupulous activities.
I was going to throw the clock out. It was old and crusty and somewhat yellowed. Yes, I did fix it (if you call identifying some oxidation on a contact and cleaning it off, fixing), but that was not going to rejuvenate the age and I did not care to find out if it lost even more accuracy. My point is that such an experience, for me, was driven by a simple curiosity that I have had all my life about anything and it would never inspire me to go into EE.
Instead, the pathological behaviors (my opinion) of folks who become keyboard warriors believing that they are operating anonymously is just one of a kazillion aspects of human behavior that inspired me to go into and stay into the Neurosciences - something I have never regretted over decades of work which I call the best work a person could have - trying to understand the nervous system.
Hey, different strokes for different folks - just saying and, of course, it is what it is :)
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Sorry my response.offended you. Have a nice day.
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Oh come on, do you really think your response above the handful of crap I read (e.g., this circuit is resistant to pulse width - I know because umm I designed it and here is the link and I'm really a big deal so just believe me and act like I know more than I do). Your post, in contrast, was nothing like that. I think you were just trying to talk about what fun it is to be curious and how it inspired you to pursue a career in that field.
Nevertheless, I think it is important to stand up to weapons-grade arrogance and delusional SME without any demonstration of commensurate accomplishment AND factual basis with the issue at hand. People secure in what they know and what they don't know, do not act that way and in my experience it is a meaningful predictor.
That a small group band together and like each other's posts and rely on the royal we and a bunch of well know and quite tired defenses does not bother me at all - they are not used to being taken to task and rely on one or two sentence replies in hope that someone will come around to save them and then they flock to liking the posts - it is expected. They can't stand up for themselves so they just make crap up.
These are folks that I have now blocked and I am happy to do that. It is a great feature because they have little to offer me and are, in my view, recalcitrant. Yes, pathological behavior has always interested me but sometimes an asshole is just an asshole and when they are so simple to predict, having to see all that crap is little more than a waste of time. Now, I don't always know somebody's reputation on here from their nickname and have to refresh my memory, but I don't ever remember seeing such arrogance from you and I have no reason to not engage.
If you sincerely think that you offended me, please know that you did not. If I offended you somehow, even vicariously, please also know that I am not apologizing for anything that I wrote - I meant all of it (well, save some typos and grammar) and nobody is forced to read any posts let alone respond to them.
You have a great day also.
MK14:
What on earth is this guy rambling on about ?
Are they crazy or something ?
basinstreetdesign:
--- Quote from: DrG on January 05, 2022, 07:31:01 am ---
--- Quote from: CatalinaWOW on January 05, 2022, 05:49:38 am ---
--- Quote from: DrG on January 05, 2022, 03:28:43 am ---
--- Quote from: CatalinaWOW on January 05, 2022, 02:13:04 am ---Lots of entertainment for such a limited subject. I have taken apart quite a few of this type of movement and the number of minor variations on the basic idea is actually kind of impressive. Why bother looking? Standard answer, the same curiosity that led me into an engineering career.
While I have several times contemplated programming up a micro to do some fancier functions than these things do, i just keep buying one of these movements when I want to make a clock. They do the job very well. In my experience they are usually accurate enough to last until the next daylight savings time forced adjustment and they are far cheaper than the pieces I would have to buy for functionality that isn't that compelling.
--- End quote ---
So happy that I could be the source of entertainment for you. I have lots of material :) When I searched on that little clock box, I found hundreds of examples and was in the process of trying to locate the patent on this one.
One thing that I do want to comment on is your statements
--- Quote ---Why bother looking? Standard answer, the same curiosity that led me into an engineering career.
--- End quote ---
Now, I am not trying to insult you and I trust you know that I would not be too subtle if I were, but those statements whether intended or not, really illustrate to me, some difference between an EE and a Behavioral Scientist. Now, I am happy that curiosity about anything captured your focus, I always am happy to hear about that, assuming the curiosity was not about unscrupulous activities.
I was going to throw the clock out. It was old and crusty and somewhat yellowed. Yes, I did fix it (if you call identifying some oxidation on a contact and cleaning it off, fixing), but that was not going to rejuvenate the age and I did not care to find out if it lost even more accuracy. My point is that such an experience, for me, was driven by a simple curiosity that I have had all my life about anything and it would never inspire me to go into EE.
Instead, the pathological behaviors (my opinion) of folks who become keyboard warriors believing that they are operating anonymously is just one of a kazillion aspects of human behavior that inspired me to go into and stay into the Neurosciences - something I have never regretted over decades of work which I call the best work a person could have - trying to understand the nervous system.
Hey, different strokes for different folks - just saying and, of course, it is what it is :)
--- End quote ---
Sorry my response.offended you. Have a nice day.
--- End quote ---
Oh come on, do you really think your response above the handful of crap I read (e.g., this circuit is resistant to pulse width - I know because umm I designed it and here is the link and I'm really a big deal so just believe me and act like I know more than I do). Your post, in contrast, was nothing like that. I think you were just trying to talk about what fun it is to be curious and how it inspired you to pursue a career in that field.
Nevertheless, I think it is important to stand up to weapons-grade arrogance and delusional SME without any demonstration of commensurate accomplishment AND factual basis with the issue at hand. People secure in what they know and what they don't know, do not act that way and in my experience it is a meaningful predictor.
That a small group band together and like each other's posts and rely on the royal we and a bunch of well know and quite tired defenses does not bother me at all - they are not used to being taken to task and rely on one or two sentence replies in hope that someone will come around to save them and then they flock to liking the posts - it is expected. They can't stand up for themselves so they just make crap up.
These are folks that I have now blocked and I am happy to do that. It is a great feature because they have little to offer me and are, in my view, recalcitrant. Yes, pathological behavior has always interested me but sometimes an asshole is just an asshole and when they are so simple to predict, having to see all that crap is little more than a waste of time. Now, I don't always know somebody's reputation on here from their nickname and have to refresh my memory, but I don't ever remember seeing such arrogance from you and I have no reason to not engage.
If you sincerely think that you offended me, please know that you did not. If I offended you somehow, even vicariously, please also know that I am not apologizing for anything that I wrote - I meant all of it (well, save some typos and grammar) and nobody is forced to read any posts let alone respond to them.
You have a great day also.
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