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| coppice:
--- Quote from: tggzzz on October 09, 2023, 09:38:09 pm --- --- Quote from: coppice on October 09, 2023, 09:33:29 pm ---I think you are the one being a twat. Everyone's IQ and ability to grasp new things falls with age, but falls at very different rates, and from different starting points. Most people struggle while still at high school. Some people grasp most new things with little effort when they are 90. The problem is not age. Its people who started out with the short straw in life, and will NEVER grasp anything moderately complex without massive reinforcement. Modern society really has no place where they can thrive. --- End quote --- So what is the logical consequence of that statement? Logan's Run? --- End quote --- Huh? Are you having a problem grasping concepts, either here or while reading/watching Logan's Run? Something like 9% or 10% of the population are of such low ability, even when young, that people with a wide variety of needs, like, famously, the US Army cannot find even simple tasks for them where their presence is a net positive. If we make simple base line tasks, like making simple payments, more intellectually challenging you can rapidly exclude way beyond that 9 or 10%, even among the young and physically fit. It just gets somewhat worse when looking at an older cohort. Combine this with failing education systems graduating more and more people who presumably follow typical norms of ability, but who have been taught very little, and an ever more complex baseline for living could be a true catastrophe. If you didn't grasp Logan's Run you had a cohort of very similar ability people. Not too bright. not too dumb. Poorly educated with a web of lies. All reaching a similar level of degradation at the age of 30, and all being bumped off in a public spectacle they'd been left too dumb to grasp. |
| nctnico:
--- Quote from: SiliconWizard on October 09, 2023, 09:40:26 pm ---It certainly deserves a discussion, just like the phasing out of cash, which is also planned. Now discussing is nice, considering different point of views is important, but who here thinks we actually have any say about it? Just curious. --- End quote --- Who cares in the end. The amount of money people have / receive is just a number which reflects how society is valueing their contribution or inherited contributions to society. Why does it matter how and where that number is stored or represented? |
| coppice:
--- Quote from: nctnico on October 09, 2023, 09:51:10 pm --- --- Quote from: SiliconWizard on October 09, 2023, 09:40:26 pm ---It certainly deserves a discussion, just like the phasing out of cash, which is also planned. Now discussing is nice, considering different point of views is important, but who here thinks we actually have any say about it? Just curious. --- End quote --- Who cares in the end. The amount of money people have / receive is just a number which reflects how society is valueing their contribution or inherited contributions to society. Why does it matter how and where that number is stored or represented? --- End quote --- Because if you don't have tight control over your number, someone else will, and has immense power over you. Even now people are randomly losing their bank accounts for spurious reasons. |
| tggzzz:
--- Quote from: coppice on October 09, 2023, 09:53:39 pm --- --- Quote from: nctnico on October 09, 2023, 09:51:10 pm --- --- Quote from: SiliconWizard on October 09, 2023, 09:40:26 pm ---It certainly deserves a discussion, just like the phasing out of cash, which is also planned. Now discussing is nice, considering different point of views is important, but who here thinks we actually have any say about it? Just curious. --- End quote --- Who cares in the end. The amount of money people have / receive is just a number which reflects how society is valueing their contribution or inherited contributions to society. Why does it matter how and where that number is stored or represented? --- End quote --- Because if you don't have tight control over your number, someone else will, and has immense power over you. Even now people are randomly losing their bank accounts for spurious reasons. --- End quote --- Precisely! Such random acts will become even more incomprehensible and un-challengeable when Artificial Idiocy technology is even more widely used. Since "unbanking" has affected national politicians, they have quickly acted to prevent themselves from becoming "unbanked". |
| TimFox:
--- Quote from: tszaboo on October 09, 2023, 08:47:44 pm --- --- Quote from: tggzzz on October 09, 2023, 05:31:53 pm ---Don't be a twat! As you will find - if you are lucky - the older you get the more difficult it is to take on radically new concepts. My father, who had a DSc (i.e. >>PhD) in two phase flow and fluid dynamics, never really got to grips with the internet and web. --- End quote --- I think you underestimate the elderly. They are really resourceful when they actually want to do something - or when they are forced to. --- Quote from: TimFox on October 09, 2023, 05:51:48 pm ---And thus it follows that the rest of us must stop using checks, as well, regardless of our own preferences. --- End quote --- Do you live in Australia? Am I forcing you to do something? No? Do whatever you please, but please don't be surprized when you get mockery for it from the people who send URLs or QR codes and get their payment in less than a minute. --- End quote --- No I do not live in Australia, but many in this thread seem to want me to be forced to change my ways. I snort at those who mock me. I find it amusing here when those ahead of me in the grocery checkout aisle take a much longer time to pay on-line than it takes me to pay cash. (Of course, those who pay by check take even longer.) |
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