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Cheques being phased out in Australia by 2030
tggzzz:
--- Quote from: SiliconWizard on October 24, 2023, 11:17:10 pm ---
--- Quote from: tggzzz on October 24, 2023, 01:15:31 pm ---That is indeed one reason; the "conspiracy theory of history" is sometimes right.
Alternative reasons are "we are young and/or ignorant so we have triumphantly reinvented the wheel", "we think you are ignorant and easily lead up the garden path until after you have given us money". The former is the "cockup theory of history", the latter is another "conspiracy theory of history".
When younger (and still in my weak moments) I prefer the conspiracy theory. But usually the cockup theory is sufficient :( Depressing isn't it.
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Usually, when new tech is promoted by older people, that means the goal is more control. When it's promoted by young ones, it's indeed more out of willing to do better than what people did before (which is natural and what has always driven us), but often without the experience to be objective about it. And the depressing part is that both can cooperate quite well to achieve things that do not benefit most of us.
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Agreed.
Still have a pain in all the diodes down my left side :(
coppice:
--- Quote from: SiliconWizard on October 24, 2023, 11:17:10 pm ---Usually, when new tech is promoted by older people, that means the goal is more control. When it's promoted by young ones, it's indeed more out of willing to do better than what people did before (which is natural and what has always driven us), but often without the experience to be objective about it. And the depressing part is that both can cooperate quite well to achieve things that do not benefit most of us.
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I would say the opposite. Young people seem to go for convenience so much they will happily stumble into being controlled. Older people have seen that before and try to avoid it. Studies of the attitudes of current young people seem to indicate that a sadly large number are very comfortable with being spied upon and controlled.
vk4ffab:
--- Quote from: coppice on October 25, 2023, 10:52:34 am ---
--- Quote from: SiliconWizard on October 24, 2023, 11:17:10 pm ---Usually, when new tech is promoted by older people, that means the goal is more control. When it's promoted by young ones, it's indeed more out of willing to do better than what people did before (which is natural and what has always driven us), but often without the experience to be objective about it. And the depressing part is that both can cooperate quite well to achieve things that do not benefit most of us.
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I would say the opposite. Young people seem to go for convenience so much they will happily stumble into being controlled. Older people have seen that before and try to avoid it. Studies of the attitudes of current young people seem to indicate that a sadly large number are very comfortable with being spied upon and controlled.
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I tend to look at things a little different to most. The problem is not who is dumb or happy to be controlled, its that "WE" as a society allow for the exploration of others though technological advancement and as a society are slow to catch up. Google went from do no evil to how can we extract more money out of our users in a very short time span. Facebook went from a good place to keep in contact with friends to every other post someone telling me how to think because they paid facebook for the privilege. Youtube went from video publication to idiots pointing and looking like their got a stick up their butts and telling us how to think for add dollars. Now everyone is playing the various algorithms for maximum gain.
The effort that I go though to not be tracked online and to be rather anonymous as far as those harvesting data go is annoying to say the least. Running a Pi Hole and a bunch of browser plugins should not be the default way to interact in the digital landscape so as to not be tracked and manipulated though targeted advertising and suggested posts and videos. But it is what it is until governments start clamping down on the excesses that give you camberage analytica and we have the right to opt out, control our data and be forgotten.
SiliconWizard:
--- Quote from: coppice on October 25, 2023, 10:52:34 am ---
--- Quote from: SiliconWizard on October 24, 2023, 11:17:10 pm ---Usually, when new tech is promoted by older people, that means the goal is more control. When it's promoted by young ones, it's indeed more out of willing to do better than what people did before (which is natural and what has always driven us), but often without the experience to be objective about it. And the depressing part is that both can cooperate quite well to achieve things that do not benefit most of us.
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I would say the opposite. Young people seem to go for convenience so much they will happily stumble into being controlled. Older people have seen that before and try to avoid it. Studies of the attitudes of current young people seem to indicate that a sadly large number are very comfortable with being spied upon and controlled.
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You're not saying the opposite - you're viewing it from the angle of end-users, when I was viewing it from the angle of the doers.
Melt-O-Tronic:
--- Quote from: ataradov on October 08, 2023, 11:30:07 pm ---In the US banks are obligated to make the deposited check balance to be available within 24 hours. They can settle the processing with the issuing bank.
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This is not true.
Edited to expand: This is true for cash deposits. Check deposits can take up to nine days to be available (although I believe that to be an extreme case).
--- Quote ---This is the base for a lot of scams that make people deposit bad checks and pay back some sum of their own money. The check bounces after a few weeks, but by that time it is too late.
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