Normal cost (petrol+parking) is about £25, cost for me today was about £2.50.
The magic of government freebies, somebody else is paying for the free loaders and non economic technologies.
Oh man Zapta. Don't you ever tire of saying the same thing over and over again?
I don't see how you can own the car - the finance company is holding the title, aren't they?
No. I own the car, the finance company is basically providing a loan that is secured against the car. If I default on the loan, they can take the car back and sell it to cover the outstanding loan. It's the same as if I took out a bank loan and just handed that money to Nissan, except that the terms are better because Nissan throw in a bit to get the rate to 0% and they know that the asset the loan is secured against has good resale value.
The noise is a combination of tyre/road, wind and engine. Even the quietest engines get loud at 60-70 mph. In a Leaf you can talk quietly and the other person can hear you, even at motorway speeds.
Even road noise is lower in a Leaf as the battery pack acts as shielding. It's so quiet that the headlights have to be an unusual shape to deflect air around the wing mirrors, because it was found to be annoying.
Not at all, as people are leaching on others and then come here to brag about it.
Kinda like saying smoking kills. Prove it. Give me hard, concrete, factual statements that support that.
Well in the spirit of presenting actual factual data. Here's something to explain:
In 2005 the US collected $35.8 billion in motor fuel tax revenue. But in that same year according to this study by the National Research Council, gas and diesel burning motor vehicles cost the public $56 billion in health and other nonclimate-related damages.
So who are the leeches?
Maybe for some the life of the car isn't that much of a concern, cars seem to be treated like consumables these days, if you expect car to last > 5 years you are seen as being mildly delusional, if I buy a car, I expect it to still be working albeit with a bit of maintenance along the way without costing an internal organ in 15 - 20 years time like they always have done. With EV's and battery packs, I am not sure that they will be.
Fossil fuel energy helps our health more than it damages.
How do you think hospitals are powered, drugs are delivered and food is produced.
Check the history of human life expectancy and see how it went up as we increased usage of fossil fuel.
If EV is such a great technology it should win on its own merit. Relying so much on government freebies and leaching on others suggest it's not.
Kinda like saying smoking kills. Prove it. Give me hard, concrete, factual statements that support that.
The link between ill-health and burning of gasoline and diesel fuel was established long ago. But just like the tobacco companies for years ignored the evidence, so it is with this...
The link between ill-health and burning of gasoline and diesel fuel was established long ago. But just like the tobacco companies for years ignored the evidence, so it is with this...I'm not saying there aren't dangers when combining the above items, just prove the solid link. If it's so well known, where said link? All I see is studies.
Prove smoking causes lung cancer. Maybe it was that whiff of mold from that musty stump in the woods when I was a kid.
Prove driving my truck causes ill-health. Been driving the same truck since '03. Broke my pelvis, arm, and bruised a bunch of ribs last year. Must've been because the tailpipe was pointed into the wind. (nope, dumbass me fell off a ladder, then fell on the same ladder, then fell off the same damn ladder again! )
Fossil fuel energy helps our health more than it damages.
You could say exactly the same thing about EV's and the subsidies thereof.
QuoteCheck the history of human life expectancy and see how it went up as we increased usage of fossil fuel.
You're mixing correlation with causation. Energy usage is a result of societal advancement, not the cause of it.
Fossil fuel energy helps our health more than it damages.
You could say exactly the same thing about EV's and the subsidies thereof.
Well, at least we agree that the demonizing of fossil fuel is foolish.
QuoteCheck the history of human life expectancy and see how it went up as we increased usage of fossil fuel.
You're mixing correlation with causation. Energy usage is a result of societal advancement, not the cause of it.
Virtual any major technology we have was enabled and energized by fossil fuel. To say that fossil fuel shorten our life while it enabled life expectancy never seen before is ridicules.
Virtual any major technology we have was enabled and energized by fossil fuel. To say that fossil fuel shorten our life while it enabled life expectancy never seen before is ridicules.Why?
Well in the spirit of presenting actual factual data. Here's something to explain:
In 2005 the US collected $35.8 billion in motor fuel tax revenue. But in that same year according to this study by the National Research Council, gas and diesel burning motor vehicles cost the public $56 billion in health and other nonclimate-related damages.
So who are the leeches?
Fossil fuel energy helps our health more than it damages. How do you think hospitals are powered, drugs are delivered and food is produced. Check the history of human life expectancy and see how it went up as we increased usage of fossil fuel.
It's hard to compare because US gallons are smaller than UK gallons, and petrol in the US is ridiculously cheap.
In any case, 54MPG is well above the rated amount for that car according to Google, so well done.
Here they were branded as Daihatsu Charades. Have you had the fuel pump push rod replaced yet? They wear and then short stroke, which gives the impression the pump is faulty when it is just not getting the full stroke off the cam shaft. Shaft wear or cam wear, but the shaft is more likely as the pump end is poorly lubricated. Braze a pip on the end and it is as good as new. There are still a lot running around, and they are quite nice and reliable.
I used to own a 1987 Chevy Nova that gets like 35 mpg, made in the 1980s.
We haven't made a lot of progress over the last 30 years.
Old problem with those, and you can now look for Daihatsu spares to get a replacement front grille. Braze on tip works well for a long time as it self lubricates on the pump end.
There has been a lot of bullshit spread around about the batteries, people saying they won't last. There are people pushing a lot of miles on Leafs, using them as taxis, and they have no problems with degradation. Tesla state that their cells are rated for 3000 full cycles, which is 900,000 miles, and they have tested up to 750,000 miles with 86% capacity remaining.
I don't mind paying for a nice car, I like to travel in comfort and style.