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Offline labnetTopic starter

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China making Iron Wire Copper plated test leads
« on: November 07, 2024, 01:24:53 am »
Checkout this video


Sure enough, went around the workshop and we found a few alligator cables and USB cables were ferrous!
Lots of open mouthed engineers not believing their eyes. What will China think of next!
 
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Re: China making Iron Wire Copper plated test leads
« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2024, 07:31:15 am »
stalin wire
 

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Re: China making Iron Wire Copper plated test leads
« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2024, 10:05:38 am »
CCP Chi Com junk ...Donald will tarriff them

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Re: China making Iron Wire Copper plated test leads
« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2024, 08:32:55 pm »
The Chinese are simply trying to teach westerners that all that glitters is not gold.
 

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Re: China making Iron Wire Copper plated test leads
« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2024, 07:59:26 am »
It's not new either, personally I fell vicitim for this in 2013.
Bought three types of test leads from three different EBAY vendors, all magnetic.
 

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Re: China making Iron Wire Copper plated test leads
« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2024, 11:51:56 am »
There is another scam, and that does not come from china:
Cables having less than advertised crosssection: They have 20% less! And those not just from some small shops, and even in germany (4 out of 5 tried to scam me)!
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Re: China making Iron Wire Copper plated test leads
« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2024, 10:54:50 pm »
the way to do it is to measure 1 strand with a micrometer and use the CSA formula after you count the strands. annoying but its the only certain way
 

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Re: China making Iron Wire Copper plated test leads
« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2024, 09:19:34 pm »
the way to do it is to measure 1 strand with a micrometer and use the CSA formula after you count the strands. annoying but its the only certain way
Wrong!



Have you ever heard of U = R * I?

You can also use a microscope to measure the width. Or even weigh the copper without the isolation.
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Re: China making Iron Wire Copper plated test leads
« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2024, 11:09:32 pm »
I think its more direct that when you get a specified wire, you measure it with the most simple easy tool to use, unless its 600 strand.

you strip 1cm of wire. count how many strands. then measure one with a micrometer.

Thats the only way you will find it can be done accurately in a normal shop.

ALot of the people here facing fake wire problems (i.e. electricians) don't have measurement microscopes or accurate scales or even kelvin. A micrometer is something that is ubiquitous.


Here is a real situation: you routed a solar cable on the roof and got second thoughts

I am realistic. Have you ever dealt with installed wiring before? Some one leaves and your left with 8 inches sticking out of a wall, barely enough to get 1 rewiring out of it.


If you actually followed the fake wire problems on the forum, you would see how the big trouble actually starts.
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Re: China making Iron Wire Copper plated test leads
« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2024, 11:16:48 pm »
ALot of the people here facing fake wire problems (i.e. electricians) don't have measurement microscopes or accurate scales or even kelvin. A micrometer is something that is ubiquitous.

Your electricians have micrometers but not half way competent ohmmeters?

Oh, right, the flag.. testing not a thing.

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Here is a real situation: you routed a solar cable on the roof and got second thoughts

I am realistic. Have you ever dealt with installed wiring before?

Have you? Using tools appropriate for dealing with wiring, not a hammer and a chisel?
 

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Re: China making Iron Wire Copper plated test leads
« Reply #11 on: November 12, 2024, 11:18:20 pm »
Electricians typically have fucked up test leads on a 3.5 digit fluke that won't read resistance under 1 ohm  ;D

hammer and chisel, no, im not in chicago.
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Re: China making Iron Wire Copper plated test leads
« Reply #12 on: November 12, 2024, 11:21:24 pm »
Electricians typically have fucked up test leads on a 3.5 digit fluke that won't read resistance under 1 ohm  ;D

I keep forgetting you don't have electricians, you have professional cable staplers.
 
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Re: China making Iron Wire Copper plated test leads
« Reply #13 on: November 13, 2024, 06:44:57 am »
Here is a real situation: you routed a solar cable on the roof and got second thoughts

I am realistic. Have you ever dealt with installed wiring before? Some one leaves and your left with 8 inches sticking out of a wall, barely enough to get 1 rewiring out of it.

If you have second thoughts on that stage, you are not doing a great job...
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Re: China making Iron Wire Copper plated test leads
« Reply #14 on: November 13, 2024, 11:56:10 pm »
you probobly did not do much at all if you run into that situation  ???


they kind of just present themselves to you.
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Re: China making Iron Wire Copper plated test leads
« Reply #15 on: November 14, 2024, 10:17:58 am »
you probobly did not do much at all if you run into that situation  ???


they kind of just present themselves to you.

Run into what situation?
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Re: China making Iron Wire Copper plated test leads
« Reply #16 on: December 19, 2024, 01:17:17 pm »
I checked the ones I recently bought in the Arrow electronics sale. The Adafruit ones are folded and unsoldered. But at 20 cents or so for 10 leads I ain't complaining. There are none left.

The Meuller Electric BU-00285 are AU$3.38 or about US$2 for a pack of 10. They are not magnetic wire and are soldered. And they are still available.
https://www.arrow.com/en/products/bu-00285/mueller-electric-company?q=BU-00285

 
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