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Chinese government gives subsidies to Rigol (and Siglent?) for scope export?
martinot:
I move an interesting topic here from another thread about a Rigol product (to not get too much off topic in that thread).
--- Quote from: rf-loop on October 06, 2019, 11:26:21 am ---
It depends a lot on how outside China price is after goverment subvention to Rigol for export.
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:wtf:
Is it true that the Chinese regime (CCP) gives subventions to Chinese scope vendors?
Does not sound like a fair trade and fair market competition (like CCP, at least officially, claims that they strive for and wants). :palm:
martinot:
[ moved from another thread to avoid OT ]
--- Quote from: rhb on July 04, 2020, 12:41:55 am ---In English the word is "subsidy".
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Ahh, thanks (used the same word as Rf-loop)! :)
--- Quote from: rhb on July 04, 2020, 12:41:55 am ---In English the word is "subsidy".The DS1202Z-E is not bad, but it has serious bugs. The one I found today is that the eye diagram triggering doesn't work, c.f "Scope Wars".
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I think Chinese pure players start to have quite decent and good hardware. At least in low end and middle market.
It's software that generally makes the big difference between western developed products and chinse developed products, and also support and documentation.
Generally, for some strange reason, it seems to be more difficult for many companies to be good at software engineering than hardware engineering. No idea why.
martinot:
[ moved from another thread to avoid OT ]
--- Quote from: Fred Basset on July 05, 2020, 03:59:23 am ---Oh, and talking of subsidies - I read an intersting piece last month over wht TCL TVs are so good, but so cheap. It is supposed to be because the Chinese Government are quietly subsidizing them, so you get a much better TV than you would expect for the price. If they are doing this with TVs, then it is perhaps not much of a stretch of the imagination to think they might be doing the same with other electronic products?
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Yes, would be interesting to know more. I think it potentially could go against a lot of promises and agreements of countries that has signed up for fair and free trade.
Rf-loop mentions that Rigol seems to get financial backings and contributions from the Chinese regime, and I wonder if the same applies to Siglent? Maybe they do not have so good ties with the CCP and do not get subsidies like them? This is very interesting!
all_repair:
Why are you worrying for Keysight and Tektonics and think that they are so incapable to file complain to WTO if what you imagine is true? Stop looking for ghost. Compare the number of STEM, and compare the wages, you shall see why Indian software programmers and China hardware shall out perform others in the same space.
tautech:
Fake news.
Most jurisdictions offer export incentives to companies, why should China be any different ? :-//
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