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Halcyon:
The history of Apple is fascinating and even I (a non-Apple user) was impressed and even lusted after some of the earlier models, like the original PowerBook with the ball mouse. Some of the first computers I ever used were the earlier Macintosh's.

However Apple has come a long way since then and not all of it is positive. Apple have hardly innovated anything in the last decade or two. Their primary focus is on the packaging and what a product looks like. They are a company that sells "style" and fashionable items. Under the hood, they are really no different to the other big hardware players out there. One example of what I'm talking about is their smartphone products. Android (and Android-based phone manufacturers) have been one step ahead of Apple for quite some time. Even back in the early days when recording video and copy/paste were standard features on many phones, Apple users missed out. People largely buy Apple because they like the look of the products or maybe due to peer pressure, rather than for the features or value for money, or perhaps because they are simply stuck in their ecosystem and are unable or unwilling to change.

Aside from the obvious aesthetics and the cult following that Apple provides, in 2021/2022, I'd say the one key advantage Apple has over a company like Microsoft is their MacOS operating system and that's largely owing to the fact that Microsoft made such a dogs breakfast of Windows 8, 10 and 11. Had I not taken the time to learn Linux, I probably would be typing this on a Mac right now.

Those are just my thoughts. I'm not trying to sway anyone in any direction, this is just how I see it with my eyes.
magic:
So how does one test that stupid thing with a scope and/or logic analyzer to see if it's completely dead?
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thm_w:

--- Quote from: wraper on December 11, 2021, 08:48:53 pm ---IMHO case being metal increases the chance of ESD damage as there is a current path for a spark to jump from IC. As you insert it into PoS terminal, you hold its metal enclosure while IC is connected to a device with different electric potential.

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"The Titanium Apple Card With Apple Card you can make digital ‌Apple Pay‌ payments, but Apple is also providing a physical card. Since this is a credit card designed by Apple, it is, of course, unique among credit cards. It's made entirely from titanium, which is laser etched with your name."

Goddamn these metal cards, they destroy credit card readers as the edges are sharp (not sure if this is specifically Apple or was another brand). The card should be the sacrificial material.
It looks like the apple card is of normal thickness (0.82mm) though.
eti:

--- Quote from: Halcyon on December 15, 2021, 09:22:35 pm ---The history of Apple is fascinating and even I (a non-Apple user) was impressed and even lusted after some of the earlier models, like the original PowerBook with the ball mouse. Some of the first computers I ever used were the earlier Macintosh's.

However Apple has come a long way since then and not all of it is positive. Apple have hardly innovated anything in the last decade or two. Their primary focus is on the packaging and what a product looks like. They are a company that sells "style" and fashionable items. Under the hood, they are really no different to the other big hardware players out there. One example of what I'm talking about is their smartphone products. Android (and Android-based phone manufacturers) have been one step ahead of Apple for quite some time. Even back in the early days when recording video and copy/paste were standard features on many phones, Apple users missed out. People largely buy Apple because they like the look of the products or maybe due to peer pressure, rather than for the features or value for money, or perhaps because they are simply stuck in their ecosystem and are unable or unwilling to change.

Aside from the obvious aesthetics and the cult following that Apple provides, in 2021/2022, I'd say the one key advantage Apple has over a company like Microsoft is their MacOS operating system and that's largely owing to the fact that Microsoft made such a dogs breakfast of Windows 8, 10 and 11. Had I not taken the time to learn Linux, I probably would be typing this on a Mac right now.

Those are just my thoughts. I'm not trying to sway anyone in any direction, this is just how I see it with my eyes.

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"One example of what I'm talking about is their smartphone products. Android (and Android-based phone manufacturers) have been one step ahead of Apple for quite some time."

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richard.cs:
Something is wrong here. These chips just don't normally fail, I've been using chip and pin since it was introduced here nearly 20 years ago, never had one fail, even cards that were horribly abused mechanically. Nor am I aware of anyone I know having broken one.

Bad batch seems unlikely, if you've been through 5 cards it must have been over a significant period of time and a batch that big would surely have affected many others. Given it's a bit of an oddball card perhaps there's a card reader somewhere near you that kills it somehow, a bad design that shorts a power supply to the metal body or similar and lifts it to a damaging voltage relative to the contacts - easily done if you assume all cards are insulating. Or maybe the shorting of the card reader contacts as the card is inserted upsets some power supply with poor transient response and it murders the chip as it recovers. Who knows, but the conductive body is the main thing that differs from normal cards.

Unless it's just some weird bug with your account and the cards are fine.
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