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| tooki:
--- Quote from: Zero999 on December 29, 2020, 10:34:29 am --- --- Quote from: Ed.Kloonk on December 29, 2020, 12:18:22 am ---Any of you who fully understand the consuption of beer from the glass will understand the sacrilege of not rinsing out the detergent. --- End quote --- I don't touch alcohol, nasty stuff, so no, I don't understand what you mean with that comment. --- End quote --- Alcohol is fine when enjoyed in moderation. No need for judginess. Anyhow, residues on glassware can cause the foam ("head") on beer to either go crazy, or to not form at all, depending on the nature of the residue. Since the head is important to the flavor development in a poured beer, it's important to get it right. Residue can also affect how other sparkling beverages behave. Ever noticed how often, pouring Coke into a glass, the first fill takes forever because it foams so much, but refills don't foam at all? Same processes. --- Quote from: Zero999 on December 29, 2020, 10:34:29 am --- --- Quote from: tooki on December 29, 2020, 12:13:59 am --- --- Quote from: Zero999 on December 28, 2020, 10:00:03 pm ---I'd definitely use more energy/water if I had a dishwasher. Modern dishwashers which try to save water are pretty crappy. My mum has one and she finds she has to soak the dishes before running it, otherwise it leaves a residue, so she probably uses more water than just doing them in the sink. It's worse because there's only two of them in the house, so the dishes piles up and the food dries hard, making it more difficult to wash. This is a classic example of regulation failure. Another is water saving toilets which require more than one flush and have a crappy siphon which ends up leaking, after a few years. --- End quote --- Absolutely not true any more. Manufacturers' first generation or two of lower-energy products seem to invariably suck, but they then figure it out. My Bosch dishwasher does just fine without using bathtubs of water (and I live alone, so my dishes take a while to pile up!), and so does my toilet, which flushes with more gusto than the water-guzzling old-style toilets my apartments in USA had. --- End quote --- Does it wash cold? If not, I doubt it. Most of the energy consumption in washing dishes is heating the water. I might use more water, but because it's cold, save of the odd item I need hot, I'll use less energy than any dishwasher which heats it up to 50oC. --- End quote --- I was talking about the claim that modern, efficient dishwashers don't work well. There might be some models that suck (which has always been the case), but it's certainly untrue as a blanket statement. --- Quote from: Zero999 on December 29, 2020, 10:34:29 am ---Regarding the toilet: do you live at the top of a block of flats, with a long drop sewage pipe, by any chance? That makes a big difference. I live in a two story house, in a flat area. Both toilets are pretty crappy, but the one on the ground floor is the worse, of the two. My house is relatively new: April 2016. --- End quote --- Nope, I'm actually on the bottom floor. |
| Zero999:
--- Quote from: tooki on December 29, 2020, 01:47:55 pm --- --- Quote from: Zero999 on December 29, 2020, 10:34:29 am --- --- Quote from: Ed.Kloonk on December 29, 2020, 12:18:22 am ---Any of you who fully understand the consuption of beer from the glass will understand the sacrilege of not rinsing out the detergent. --- End quote --- I don't touch alcohol, nasty stuff, so no, I don't understand what you mean with that comment. --- End quote --- Alcohol is fine when enjoyed in moderation. No need for judginess. --- End quote --- Don't be overly sensitive. It's my opinion. I don't enjoy the effects of alcohol, even in moderation. It's truly nasty stuff. --- Quote ---Nope, I'm actually on the bottom floor. --- End quote --- I bet there's a fairly long drop before the sewer, otherwise it wouldn't flush so well. When the toilet flushes, the inertia and siphon effect of the water passing down the long pipe, helps suck the rest of the contents of the toilet bowl out. If you've got a short pipe going into the sewer, it won't flush so well. |
| Circlotron:
--- Quote from: tooki on December 29, 2020, 01:47:55 pm ---Nope, I'm actually on the bottom floor. --- End quote --- So your toilet is on the *bottom* floor? Somebody had to say it... |
| Ed.Kloonk:
--- Quote from: Circlotron on December 29, 2020, 08:55:53 pm --- --- Quote from: tooki on December 29, 2020, 01:47:55 pm ---Nope, I'm actually on the bottom floor. --- End quote --- So your toilet is on the *bottom* floor? Somebody had to say it... --- End quote --- This thread is in the shitter. |
| Cubdriver:
--- Quote from: Zero999 on December 29, 2020, 05:34:31 pm ---I bet there's a fairly long drop before the sewer, otherwise it wouldn't flush so well. When the toilet flushes, the inertia and siphon effect of the water passing down the long pipe, helps suck the rest of the contents of the toilet bowl out. If you've got a short pipe going into the sewer, it won't flush so well. --- End quote --- I don't see how the length of the drop makes much if any difference - all the toilet plumbing I'm familiar with is vented very close to the point it joins the drain stack, specifically to PREVENT the trap from being sucked dry by a slug of water going down the pipe. https://www.bhg.com/home-improvement/plumbing/drain-venting/ http://blowneyedbeauties.blogspot.com/2013/05/toilet-vent-stack-diagram.html -Pat |
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