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Color Laser Printer WIFI (Although I'm old!)
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tooki:

--- Quote from: Lord of nothing on February 29, 2020, 05:36:37 pm ---Can some one PLEASE fix the horrible formation of the Text:

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That user always puts in unnecessary line breaks. I’ve mentioned it to him a few times but it’s fallen on deaf ears.
tooki:

--- Quote from: GlennSprigg on February 29, 2020, 12:25:10 pm ---
--- Quote from: angrybird on February 26, 2020, 07:11:33 pm ---Look at the printer with WireShark or a good network router...  These networked printers are sending massive data to numerous IP's as you use them.  I suspect this data includes information about any other wifi devices it spots as well as other devices on your network.  I had an HP MFP series connected to the internet and it sent more than 500MB in a month, and with limited use.  Data went to IP's belonging to facebook, google, twitter, etc as well as some unidentified IP's in Asia region.

I won't connect printers to the internet anymore.  There is no privacy laws to keep them from doing this as long as they claim the data is "anonymized", though it can be used to trace directly to you with easy data analysis.

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Thanks to everyone for all for your replies!  However, to 'angrybird'...
I'm generally wary of what is connected to my WIFI, but my Brother HL-L3230CDW doesn't seem to
do anything 'behind the scenes'.  I utilize 'specialized' software that monitors ALL communications on
my router by any device/user, beyond the 'normal' monitoring people know of/use. There is no data
usage other than the expected handshaking to my other devices, and zero in sleep mode.

And yea, to others in general...  we wouldn't use but a fraction of what some people might in an office
or business environment, and there's no worries about 'clogged' inkjets between use, nor with spending
the fraction of the normal cost of 'propitiatory' toner cartridges when/if we need them after years!!

Mind you, I never thought about the claims of 'better' Photos with an Inkjet!!  I suppose it must also
depend on the specialized glossy/mat/sheen papers used???  Even with the past's Inkjets, it always
seemed cheaper/better to take a memory-stick to 'Office-Works' etc, & pay mere CENTS for a print!!
However, aren't they just using Laser Printers anyway??? (All-be-it a high quality one?)

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Quality photo printing on ANY type of printer is reliant on using high quality materials, both the papers and the inks. (They need to be not only high quality, but also correctly matched. Not all papers work well with all inks, and vice versa, which is why every printer manufacturer makes and recommends photo papers for their printers.)

Laser isn’t optimal for photos, even today, since it uses comparatively coarse dots and only the 4 basic colors of toner. Photo books use laser printing, but it looks like a printed magazine, and the gloss is sometimes weird. Inkjet not only allows for finer dots at more arbitrary locations, and in many cases allowing for multiple dot sizes. But above all, often uses additional ink colors to achieve better smoothness. Some printers have used 11 different inks, with various shades of cyan, magenta, and gray, and sometimes added red, green, or blue, in addition to the standard CMYK. And it’s comparatively easy to scale up an inkjet mechanism from letter size up to paper 6 feet wide. This is why inkjet has become THE standard for art prints, since you can get extraordinary detail and quality, yet still do it on a large print. (There are even bigger inkjets that can print banners and ads 12 feet wide, but at lower resolution since those things aren’t looked at from so close.)

The in-store printers are dye sublimation, which produces continuous-tone prints that have the same smoothness as traditional silver halide prints.

P.S. Lord of Nothing is absolutely correct. PLEASE stop inserting manual line breaks. They are not necessary in any way, and they destroy the layout when viewing on a phone.
GlennSprigg:
To "Lord of Nothing"  &  "tooki"  (and who ever else...).
The line above, for example, & this one, is short!, so I hit ENTER.
I'm not trying to piss anyone off deliberately, and I guess I (wrongfully) assume that the VAST majority of peoples screens these days are at least 1024 wide now, (usually 'much' more!), although I admit that I did not consider the likes of Mobile-Phones...  I just personally dislike long continuous lines like this, where even my low-res laptop is 1366 wide, almost cramming Paragraphs into one line!!   ;D

I do often think about this, though...
Say I had a list like this, below, hitting ENTER after each one...
 1:  Theory about the Universe and Everything.
 2:  I'm getting old, but don't bury me yet, please!
 3:  I woke up on the right side of the ground this morning!
 4:  This line is longer, but I don't think about counting how many letters I've typed now before an auto line-wrap?
      (On YOUR screen... not mine!!)

Did item '4' above word-wrap???  For you, I wouldn't know. Sorry.
I just 'try' to keep things/text in neat Blocks. It's not my desire to offend...   :phew:
SilverSolder:

--- Quote from: GlennSprigg on March 03, 2020, 12:20:52 pm ---To "Lord of Nothing"  &  "tooki"  (and who ever else...).
The line above, for example, & this one, is short!, so I hit ENTER.
I'm not trying to piss anyone off deliberately, and I guess I (wrongfully) assume that the VAST majority of peoples screens these days are at least 1024 wide now, (usually 'much' more!), although I admit that I did not consider the likes of Mobile-Phones...  I just personally dislike long continuous lines like this, where even my low-res laptop is 1366 wide, almost cramming Paragraphs into one line!!   ;D

I do often think about this, though...
Say I had a list like this, below, hitting ENTER after each one...
 1:  Theory about the Universe and Everything.
 2:  I'm getting old, but don't bury me yet, please!
 3:  I woke up on the right side of the ground this morning!
 4:  This line is longer, but I don't think about counting how many letters I've typed now before an auto line-wrap?
      (On YOUR screen... not mine!!)

Did item '4' above word-wrap???  For you, I wouldn't know. Sorry.
I just 'try' to keep things/text in neat Blocks. It's not my desire to offend...   :phew:

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If you are reading text on a phone,  rotating it 90 degrees to landscape view is often a better overall experience.
ebastler:

--- Quote from: GlennSprigg on March 03, 2020, 12:20:52 pm ---To "Lord of Nothing"  &  "tooki"  (and who ever else...).
The line above, for example, & this one, is short!, so I hit ENTER.
[...]
I just personally dislike long continuous lines like this, where even my low-res laptop is 1366 wide, almost cramming Paragraphs into one line!!   ;D

Say I had a list like this, below, hitting ENTER after each one...
 1:  Theory about the Universe and Everything.
 2:  I'm getting old, but don't bury me yet, please!
[...]

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Hi Glenn,

Regarding general formatting, my advice would be: Splitting a text into meaningful paragraphs is fine, of course. Hit Enter twice to start a new paragraph. But trying to manually end lines within a paragraph is a bad idea.

Yes, pretty much everyone has at least 1024 pixels per line on their displays today. But some of these displays nevertheless show a limited number of words per line, to keep the words readable. This is the case for small mobile devices, and even for large desktop monitors operated at large text sizes, for those of us with impaired vision.

Regarding the topic of lists: That's what the "Insert Ordered List" button in the forum's text editor is for! It inserts a template for a numbered list. It will be formatted in a way to ensure optimum line breaks for every display and browser when readers view it later -- similar to how the browser breaks the lines in a regular paragraph, depending on the available space. There is also an "Insert Unordered List" button, for lists with bullet points.
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