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| PlainName:
--- Quote from: james_s on May 06, 2023, 06:00:15 pm --- --- Quote from: ebastler on May 06, 2023, 12:45:19 pm ---In the European Union, EU directive 2000/31/EC makes it a legal requirement that contact information and address are provided on any website which offers "information society services". Member states have to put appropriate national legislation in place, e.g. in Germany the "Telemediengesetz" (TMG). That strange term "information society services" is defined broadly and includes e.g. online shops, online product catalogs, and other information offerings which serve a commercial purpose (and are typically, but not necessarily, offered for a charge). So there should not be much debate whether a EU-based commercial website makes the company's address available. --- End quote --- That's bizarre, and people actually operate home based businesses under those rules? There is no way I would do that, my home address is private, there is absolutely no reason for it to be publicly posted. Here standard practice for home based businesses is to use a PO box for all physical correspondence. --- End quote --- Where in that legislation does it say you have to use your own address? It says "contact information and address", so however you want to be contacted is what you use. It's very common for companies, and particularly one-man operations, to use their accountant's details, and most accountancy practices expect to provide this service. |
| themadhippy:
--- Quote ---It's very common for companies, and particularly one-man operations, to use their accountant's details, --- End quote --- Exactly what sevral companys i deal with do.Are they trying to hide something? yes were they store there expensive toys and especially cable.Advertising you've got 100's of meters of copper in your garage tends to attract certain elements of society. |
| Haenk:
Home-run business are (or at least were, a couple of years ago) quite common in Germany. Our company was initially run from my parents house, then from my brothers student apartment. In all these years, hundreds of thousands of orders later, there have only been a handful of customers ringing at our business address (now dedicated office/building) without arranging a pickup in advance. That has never been a problem, ever. Addresses were publically visible on our web site and print ads, all the time. Personally, I would never order from someone who does not show his business address and contact detail. (At least in Germany, that is a pretty certain hint at fraudulent operations.) |
| james_s:
--- Quote from: Haenk on May 08, 2023, 09:44:16 am ---Personally, I would never order from someone who does not show his business address and contact detail. (At least in Germany, that is a pretty certain hint at fraudulent operations.) --- End quote --- I don't even understand this way of thinking. The address will be registered with the government, if something happens they can be located. There is no legitimate reason for you to need the physical address if it is a business that does not accept walk-in customers. Even if they give you an address you're not going to know if that's actually their address unless you go there and find out. I could list the address of any number of nondescript business parks, how are you going to know that's the real address? A listed address does nothing to tell you that the business isn't fraudulent. |
| mendip_discovery:
--- Quote from: james_s on May 16, 2023, 05:48:12 pm --- --- Quote from: Haenk on May 08, 2023, 09:44:16 am ---Personally, I would never order from someone who does not show his business address and contact detail. (At least in Germany, that is a pretty certain hint at fraudulent operations.) --- End quote --- I don't even understand this way of thinking. The address will be registered with the government, if something happens they can be located. There is no legitimate reason for you to need the physical address if it is a business that does not accept walk-in customers. Even if they give you an address you're not going to know if that's actually their address unless you go there and find out. I could list the address of any number of nondescript business parks, how are you going to know that's the real address? A listed address does nothing to tell you that the business isn't fraudulent. --- End quote --- One of the first things that the police talk about when you are looking at a website with the potential to buy from it. It comes about every year on the haunted fish tank at xmas time as the scammers try to sell that item that is hard to get gold of. |
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