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nctnico:

--- Quote from: tom66 on August 11, 2022, 04:37:33 pm ---But a lot of car ownership is about convenience and the only thing more convenient than owning a car is all of the benefits of a car without actually having to park it on your drive.

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That sounds reasonable until you have to pay for it. What you describe is what is called a taxi. I think you will be surprised how small the part 'labour costs' is for a ride in a taxi. IOW: self driving cars as a rental form is not going to be cheaper. Especially if you are sensible with your money and buy a used car.
tom66:

--- Quote from: nctnico on August 11, 2022, 04:48:53 pm ---That sounds reasonable until you have to pay for it. What you describe is what is called a taxi. I think you will be surprised how small the part 'labour costs' is for a ride in a taxi. IOW: self driving cars as a rental form is not going to be cheaper. Especially if you are sensible with your money and buy a used car.

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I see no reason that a SDC would be more expensive than owning your own car, especially when you consider insurance, maintenance, breakdowns etc.

A taxi driver around here makes about £15 per hour if busy, if they do 30 mph average that's 50p per mile.  Most taxi companies charge about 80p-£1 per mile around here.  And there's no reason an SDC would need to be a new vehicle - they could easily do 500k miles before being scrapped if designed right. 
bdunham7:

--- Quote from: nctnico on August 11, 2022, 04:48:53 pm ---That sounds reasonable until you have to pay for it. What you describe is what is called a taxi. I think you will be surprised how small the part 'labour costs' is for a ride in a taxi. IOW: self driving cars as a rental form is not going to be cheaper. Especially if you are sensible with your money and buy a used car.

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Uber and its ilk have grossly mislead people as to the actual costs of this type of arrangement by initially subsidizing their operations with investor cash.  They aren't so cheap anymore as they try to transition to a profitable model.  One of the things I've noticed is that they are allowing older and more decrepit cars to be used as their 'independent' drivers have realized they aren't getting paid enough to account for the depreciation and wear on a newer car.
bdunham7:

--- Quote from: tom66 on August 11, 2022, 04:55:49 pm ---I see no reason that a SDC would be more expensive than owning your own car, especially when you consider insurance, maintenance, breakdowns etc.

A taxi driver around here makes about £15 per hour if busy, if they do 30 mph average that's 50p per mile.  Most taxi companies charge about 80p-£1 per mile around here.  And there's no reason an SDC would need to be a new vehicle - they could easily do 500k miles before being scrapped if designed right.

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YMMV, but my all-in costs per mile are much less than $1/mile and taxi/ride services are much more than $1/mile every time I've used them.  And while a service may be more convenient in some cases--airport runs, congested cities with no parking, etc, it is much less convenient for everyday use in a suburban environment.  I drive my own car from my driveway to the dentist/grocery/whatever and I have zero waiting time and can change my itinerary at will.  Again, YMMV.

Why would an SDC last longer than any other car?  Is that simply based on using the car more, so the time effects are lessened compared to mileage?  500K miles lifetime is going to require either a lot of maintenance or a different vehicle design even in a shortened timeframe due to high usage.
nctnico:

--- Quote from: tom66 on August 11, 2022, 04:55:49 pm ---
--- Quote from: nctnico on August 11, 2022, 04:48:53 pm ---That sounds reasonable until you have to pay for it. What you describe is what is called a taxi. I think you will be surprised how small the part 'labour costs' is for a ride in a taxi. IOW: self driving cars as a rental form is not going to be cheaper. Especially if you are sensible with your money and buy a used car.

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I see no reason that a SDC would be more expensive than owning your own car, especially when you consider insurance, maintenance, breakdowns etc.

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My car (reasonably sized station wagon) costs me around 0.21 euro per km all in while not skimping on any maintenance. Next car is going to be cheaper due to lower fuel consumption.
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