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| nctnico:
If you don't need that much fuel, then it becomes easier to replace fuel from oil with synthetic / organic fuel that has no additional CO2 emissions. |
| gnuarm:
--- Quote from: nctnico on August 02, 2022, 12:59:01 pm ---If you don't need that much fuel, then it becomes easier to replace fuel from oil with synthetic / organic fuel that has no additional CO2 emissions. --- End quote --- ??? What does "easier" mean? Producing gasoline from biological sources is no small task. It takes a huge amount of energy. It would only be viable if energy were extremely cheap and maybe not, even then. The cost of the plant to convert the fuel is much more involved than a refinery, for example. |
| nctnico:
--- Quote from: gnuarm on August 02, 2022, 01:02:58 pm --- --- Quote from: nctnico on August 02, 2022, 12:59:01 pm ---If you don't need that much fuel, then it becomes easier to replace fuel from oil with synthetic / organic fuel that has no additional CO2 emissions. --- End quote --- ??? What does "easier" mean? --- End quote --- If you use less fuel with a hybrid, then you'll need less non-fossil fuel as a replacement. In turn this means that 1) synthetic / organic fuels may be significantly more expensive compared to fossil fuels while you can still get from A to B for the same price. 2) you'll need to produce less fuel in order to replace fossil fuel consumption. And ofcourse modern day synthetic / organic fuel factories are powered using renewable sources so it doesn't really matter how much energy they need. In the end all what counts is that the price of the fuel being produced is competitive or not. https://www.toyota-europe.com/world-of-toyota/feel/environment/better-air/biofuels Bottom line is: BEVs are not the only possible solution for zero emission cars. Far from it! |
| gnuarm:
--- Quote from: nctnico on August 02, 2022, 01:07:54 pm --- --- Quote from: gnuarm on August 02, 2022, 01:02:58 pm --- --- Quote from: nctnico on August 02, 2022, 12:59:01 pm ---If you don't need that much fuel, then it becomes easier to replace fuel from oil with synthetic / organic fuel that has no additional CO2 emissions. --- End quote --- ??? What does "easier" mean? --- End quote --- If you use less fuel with a hybrid, then you'll need less non-fossil fuel as a replacement. In turn this means that 1) synthetic / organic fuels may be significantly more expensive compared to fossil fuels while you can still get from A to B for the same price. 2) you'll need to produce less fuel in order to replace fossil fuel consumption. And ofcourse modern day synthetic / organic fuel factories are powered using renewable sources so it doesn't really matter how much energy they need. In the end all what counts is that the price of the fuel being produced is competitive or not. https://www.toyota-europe.com/world-of-toyota/feel/environment/better-air/biofuels Bottom line is: BEVs are not the only possible solution for zero emission cars. Far from it! --- End quote --- No, BEVs are not the only possible choice. We can wait for the Jetson's flying car too. Let me know when any of what you are talking about is ready for the market. |
| nctnico:
In case you aren't aware: the fuel you buy today already consists of 5% to 10% bio-fuel! This has been the case for a long time already. |
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