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Offline Stray Electron

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Re: Coronavirus cure
« Reply #25 on: March 13, 2020, 08:42:00 pm »
TP is gone everywhere. It is surreal. I thought it was just memes. But yesterday I went to buy some tea and saw that there was not a roll of TP in the whole store. This is just stupid.

   Don't worry, the New York Times is still selling TP, albeit in large sheet size.
 
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« Reply #26 on: March 13, 2020, 08:42:56 pm »
The TP hoarding is indeed very strange. I mean it's convenient stuff to have on hand and I have plenty to last me for a few months because it's something I've always bought in bulk at Cosco because it doesn't go bad, but it wouldn't be a complete disaster if I ran out. I mean one can always hop in the shower and wash up, or improvise in various other ways. Modern TP has only been around since the 1800s, people survived without it even without all the other modern conveniences we have.
 

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« Reply #27 on: March 13, 2020, 08:49:43 pm »
But OTOH, not preparing yourself and just relying on mother government to care for you may also be debatable.

Yes, it's very debatable, I can't understand that line of thinking at all.

I normally buy my own food, and like to cook. I bet many think the same way. I don't normally expect the government to bring food to my door. Despite the corona, I want to keep living my life normally - this includes being able to prepare food, without special arrangements.

Why the heck should I throw my hands up and wait for government to start bringing me food now? Quite the opposite, they likely have better things to do right now.

So sorry everybody, but I will continue having some food in my household, and making my (our) own meals, like I always do. Due to the very real possibility of being 14 day in a quarantine, this includes bare minimum of 14 days of stock of ingredients for proper meals; realistically, a bit more than 14 days is a good margin. Call that panicking if you want; I call that the polar opposite of panicking.

The shortages we see right now are not "panicking", but people actually realizing this in one go - too many realizes it at the same time. The realization and the action isn't incorrect at all - just too concentrated. This does no big harm - the shelves will be filled again, it's just a nuisance. But it would be so much easier if a larger percentage of people acted earlier, spreading the stocking of their 2-4 week pile (which is good to have anyway) over a month or so; now it happens during a few days.
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« Reply #28 on: March 13, 2020, 08:51:04 pm »
My wife and I just got back from doing our regular shopping, and it's quite interesting to see what is and isn't available.

There were shortages on:
- dried pasta, though one brand had just been restocked, so we could have bought whatever type we wanted, if we'd needed any)
- toilet paper (as with pasta, available but limited quantity and choice of brand)
- over-the-counter painkillers (no stock at all)
- tinned tomatoes

Some meat and vegetables were low too, but no more so than would be usual late in the evening.

It's scary to see just how easily some specific items can suddenly disappear from the shelves, but for now, we're not missing out on anything essential. We may end up eating more rice and potatoes for the next few weeks.

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« Reply #29 on: March 13, 2020, 08:58:38 pm »
The painkillers is an odd one too, I don't think I've ever taken a painkiller when I've had the flu, except for the stuff that is already mixed with a decongestant.
 

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« Reply #30 on: March 13, 2020, 09:19:51 pm »
The painkillers is an odd one too, I don't think I've ever taken a painkiller when I've had the flu, except for the stuff that is already mixed with a decongestant.
Paracetamol works fantastic to reduce fever and feel much better. As a painkiller drinking water is just as effective as taking Paracetamol.
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« Reply #31 on: March 13, 2020, 10:07:37 pm »
The painkillers is an odd one too, I don't think I've ever taken a painkiller when I've had the flu, except for the stuff that is already mixed with a decongestant.

An ipbuprofen shortage has pre-existed ncovid-19 - there has been a worldwide shortage of the key ingredient for a few months now. You can easiy buy the very expensive branded products, but the cheap generic stuff has flown off the shelfs as soon as it came into stock.

The paracetamol shortage has arisen since India declared it was restriciting exports on 4th of March:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/04/india-limits-medicine-exports-coronavirus-paracetamol-antibiotics

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The coronavirus outbreak has led India to restrict the export of dozens of drugs including paracetamol and various antibiotics, leading to fears of a global shortage of essential medicines.

No doubt that anouncement stimulated panic buying. I even bought a couple of packets myself.  >:D
 

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« Reply #32 on: March 13, 2020, 11:58:03 pm »

So sorry everybody, but I will continue having some food in my household, and making my (our) own meals, like I always do. Due to the very real possibility of being 14 day in a quarantine, this includes bare minimum of 14 days of stock of ingredients for proper meals; realistically, a bit more than 14 days is a good margin. Call that panicking if you want; I call that the polar opposite of panicking.

If you will be for 14 days in quarantine, you will still be allowed to go out to get food, period. The same as going to a doctor or a pharmacy.

Ideally you shouldn't and you should get someone to bring it to you but even in countries like Slovakia and Italy that have actually implemented country-wide quarantines now and have police in the streets people are still allowed to get food. Quarantines are meant to prevent you from spreading germs, not to make you go hungry for two weeks.

Also, it is very likely that those country-wide quarantines will be much longer than the two week precautionary isolation. Then what? Are you going to stock up for a month, two, three? Because that is what we are realistically facing - the shutdown will last at least a month, possibly longer, before the epidemics gets anywhere near to starting to crest.

So yes, you are panicking.

That doesn't mean that you shouldn't have some basic supplies to last a few days at least because if you get the virus, you will likely be out of commission for a few days with fever. However, even from the basic healthcare point of view it is better to eat fresh food like vegetables and fruit to boost your immune system than dried pasta and canned foods. And those you certainly can't stock up for two or more weeks on.
 

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Re: Coronavirus cure
« Reply #33 on: March 14, 2020, 12:23:00 am »
No doubt that anouncement stimulated panic buying. I even bought a couple of packets myself.  >:D
Be wary not to overwipe your ass till calluses appear  :-DD.
 

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« Reply #34 on: March 14, 2020, 12:31:30 am »
It looks like we are heading to early spring this year. Growing supplies on your own backyard is another option for mitigating grocery shortages. In Soviet Union they used to rely on burdock leaves before importing their first toilet paper manufacturing line from UK in 1969.
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Re: Coronavirus cure
« Reply #35 on: March 14, 2020, 12:42:32 am »

It is in any case better to wash your rear than smearing it with a piece of paper...

Time to invest in a bidet?
 

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« Reply #36 on: March 14, 2020, 12:47:51 am »
It looks like we are heading to early spring this year. Growing supplies on your own backyard is another option for mitigating grocery shortages. In Soviet Union they used to rely on burdock leaves before importing their first toilet paper manufacturing line from UK in 1969.
I can assure you they are not comfy. Used a few times in the wilds. IMHO sandpaper would be about as good  :).
 

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Re: Coronavirus cure
« Reply #39 on: March 14, 2020, 12:55:04 am »
I'm in LA and my costco doesn't look like that. Luckily. Just bought some protein drinks and bars.
 

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« Reply #40 on: March 14, 2020, 01:06:01 am »
Thanks god, we don’t have problem of people brawling over TP. This is TP section in my nearest store yesterday.
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Re: Coronavirus cure
« Reply #41 on: March 14, 2020, 01:09:27 am »
LOL at the video i man bought crona beer LOL maybe thats the cure  :palm: :-DD

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« Reply #42 on: March 14, 2020, 01:52:54 am »
An ipbuprofen shortage has pre-existed ncovid-19 - there has been a worldwide shortage of the key ingredient for a few months now. You can easiy buy the very expensive branded products, but the cheap generic stuff has flown off the shelfs as soon as it came into stock.

I bought a package of two big bottles at Costco about a month ago when I ran out, I think it was only $8. It's way more than I need but a small bottle at a regular store costs about the same amount. I'd be happy to give some away but I don't think there's any trouble getting around here, at least there wasn't prior to the craze.
 

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« Reply #43 on: March 14, 2020, 01:57:36 am »
What is special with brawl videos, it is like that every year on Black Friday.
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Re: Coronavirus cure
« Reply #44 on: March 14, 2020, 02:09:21 am »
No doubt that anouncement stimulated panic buying. I even bought a couple of packets myself.  >:D
Be wary not to overwipe your ass till calluses appear  :-DD.

Why would anyone do that? Surely any self respecting gadget aficionado owns one of these:

http://viz.co.uk/2014/09/24/clag-gone/




[EDIT] For the humour challenged amongst you please don't rush to send off your £299.99 cheques as I understand that due to coronavirus related supply line problems and unprecedented demand, they are likely to be out of stock for the forseeable future...

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Re: Coronavirus cure
« Reply #46 on: March 14, 2020, 03:42:17 am »
Roto Wipe? About as clear an example of plagiarism imaginable - 'Clag-Gone' dates back to the early 1980's.

Hope they have good lawyers and deep pockets as they will inevitably be required to face up to the mighty 'Viz Corp' establishment. Let God have mercy on their gag-stealing souls....
 

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Re: Coronavirus cure
« Reply #47 on: March 14, 2020, 04:12:27 am »


dish washer safe  :palm:

also car waster sprayer your ass  :-DD you be spraying the shit right back out

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« Last Edit: March 14, 2020, 11:05:42 am by StillTrying »
.  That took much longer than I thought it would.
 

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Re: Coronavirus cure
« Reply #49 on: March 14, 2020, 08:44:08 am »
So yes, you are panicking.

Exactly what I expected to hear: the panic about panic.

Please go on with your panic: I continue my panicless life. It's easy, because I'm not very social anyway, don't like to attend public events or live "service-based" life, and am very accustomed to having food in my household even under completely normal conditions. (This is likely due to spending 2 months every year in total isolation, washing gold, 10km walk, 2-hour motorboat trip + 1-hour drive away from the nearest store, every summer since 1 year-old; the food/supply arrangements are normal for me.)

So there is little change. I have a slighly larger stockpile than usual (stocked well before the epidemic phase), which makes my life easier so that I don't need to think about the mechanisms you spend time describing and relying on. They still exist for me the same, if needed; but me not requiring them immediately benefits both my ease-of-life and the burden to the system.

You are right that if the shit really hits the fan, then we are finally on the same line because no stockpile is infinite. I'm not too interested about that remote possibility; you are free to panic about it as you wish.

I prefer a local L1 cache so that the already congested bus isn't filled up with my small requests when there is no real need for them.
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