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Re: Coronavirus cure
« Reply #75 on: March 21, 2020, 04:34:42 pm »


FYI 100 years ago most people were idiots and believed ANYTHING reported to them.

Due to too much conflicting BS, I believe Mary got an undeserved bad rap for something smelly that was going on

    And... you just proved that some people today still behave that way.
 

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« Reply #76 on: March 21, 2020, 04:49:53 pm »
I don't think people 100 years ago were any more gullible than people today, I mean you don't have to look beyond the fake stories and rumors that spread through social media to see that.

In general I think the news was higher quality back then too. Sensationalism was a problem then as it is now but there wasn't the 24 hour news channels needing filler content.
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« Reply #77 on: March 22, 2020, 12:10:51 am »

and again for those that missed or skipped:

"Mallon spent the rest of her life in quarantine at the Riverside Hospital. Six years before her death, she was paralyzed by a stroke. On November 11, 1938, she died of pneumonia at age 69.[1]
A post-mortem found evidence of live typhoid bacteria in her gallbladder.[17]

Other researchers have cited George Soper who wrote, "There was no autopsy" to assert a conspiracy to calm public opinion after her death.



If we can believe 2020 sources, the reporters and researchers back then (FOS) did not concur = BS Radar Alert!  :bullshit: :bullshit:

I hope Mary's spirit can now truly RIP  :-+

 

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« Reply #78 on: March 25, 2020, 02:11:19 am »
the new bog roll to reduce panic buying bog roll
 
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« Reply #79 on: March 27, 2020, 02:52:43 pm »
To actually mention the 'cure' word here, there is a NEW discussion on Aussie TV today, about the old Vaccine for 'Tuberculosis'. We don't have a need for it generally here in Australia any more, but they say that this vaccine ALSO GREATLY increases your general "Immune System".  As such, it is believed that although it won't 'cure' you, it may greatly help your body to adapt/fight this Coronavirus ??
Hopefully, anything that may help is worth looking in to...  :(
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« Reply #80 on: March 27, 2020, 03:37:56 pm »
Hopefully, anything that may help is worth looking in to...  :(

Yep. But experience also shows us how cautious we should be communicating about it (which is shame though, so much for transparency!)

It's like as soon as some medical team gives a slight hope with a potential drug that *may* help, some people will start buying that illegally and self-medicate. Maybe we should just let them though, as this is so stupid anyway that they may as well face the consequences with side-effects and possible overdose.
 

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« Reply #81 on: March 27, 2020, 04:12:52 pm »
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It's like as soon as some medical team gives a slight hope with a potential drug that *may* help, some people will start buying that illegally and self-medicate. Maybe we should just let them though, as this is so stupid anyway that they may as well face the consequences with side-effects and possible overdose.

Consider them as testing volunteers?
 

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« Reply #82 on: March 27, 2020, 04:38:44 pm »
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It's like as soon as some medical team gives a slight hope with a potential drug that *may* help, some people will start buying that illegally and self-medicate. Maybe we should just let them though, as this is so stupid anyway that they may as well face the consequences with side-effects and possible overdose.

Consider them as testing volunteers?

As none of it is monitored (except we just know if they die) and we aren't even sure what they got illegally was the real substance, I don't think we can't get anything valid out of this except natural selection.
 
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« Reply #83 on: March 28, 2020, 10:29:46 am »
I lived with the Malaysian Army in Bosnia for  a time.
They  had a perfectly good system...
It involved no toilet paper....They didnt have or want any...they just took a big bucket full of water into the toilet with them...and then used their hand...dipping in and out of the water.

I used to use the pages of a paperback book...and put it in a plastic bag and throw it away afterwards as it would block the toilet.

Bring back National health toilet paper!!
 

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« Reply #84 on: March 28, 2020, 03:50:39 pm »
I lived with the Malaysian Army in Bosnia for  a time.
They  had a perfectly good system...
It involved no toilet paper....They didnt have or want any...they just took a big bucket full of water into the toilet with them...and then used their hand...dipping in and out of the water.


   I'm curious about how they cleaned their hands after their wipe up job?  That would be a good way to spread Covid19 these days.  Early studies have shown that it remains active in fecal matter for up to 16 days after the subject has been clinically tested as recovered.  And that's not even allowing for people that are asymptomatic.
 

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« Reply #85 on: March 29, 2020, 03:24:55 pm »
Hopefully, anything that may help is worth looking in to...  :(

Yep. But experience also shows us how cautious we should be communicating about it (which is shame though, so much for transparency!)

It's like as soon as some medical team gives a slight hope with a potential drug that *may* help, some people will start buying that illegally and self-medicate. Maybe we should just let them though, as this is so stupid anyway that they may as well face the consequences with side-effects and possible overdose.

???  If someone here was 'selling' something, then maybe......  The 'idea/ideal' here as far as I'm concerned is that as this is a World Wide problem, then NOTHING should be off the table of discussion!  We are beyond 'panic media', and should be globally sharing all knowledge. Yes, individuals can/do panic, but the World knows there is no panacea yet, but requires a Global share of knowledge as of today. We can't 'pander' to the limited educationally or worry about being 'offensive', when just being informative.
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« Reply #86 on: March 29, 2020, 03:40:09 pm »
Hopefully, anything that may help is worth looking in to...  :(

Yep. But experience also shows us how cautious we should be communicating about it (which is shame though, so much for transparency!)

It's like as soon as some medical team gives a slight hope with a potential drug that *may* help, some people will start buying that illegally and self-medicate. Maybe we should just let them though, as this is so stupid anyway that they may as well face the consequences with side-effects and possible overdose.

???  If someone here was 'selling' something, then maybe......  The 'idea/ideal' here as far as I'm concerned is that as this is a World Wide problem, then NOTHING should be off the table of discussion!  We are beyond 'panic media', and should be globally sharing all knowledge. Yes, individuals can/do panic, but the World knows there is no panacea yet, but requires a Global share of knowledge as of today. We can't 'pander' to the limited educationally or worry about being 'offensive', when just being informative.

Oh, I personally agree. But I could see that not everyone does, we had a couple examples lately.
 

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« Reply #87 on: March 29, 2020, 06:49:37 pm »
I lived with the Malaysian Army in Bosnia for  a time.
I'm curious about how they cleaned their hands after their wipe up job?  That would be a good way to spread Covid19 these days.
using soap and water. if the smell doesnt go and its bothering you, rub your hand on rough surface like land soil or wall etc. if its contagious we should already find another better way much earlier. but thats how we are taught and used to from child hood. water is proven cleanser found everywhere. i do agree using both toilet paper and water will give best result, toilet paper used to take out large amount of those dirty stuff off and to avoid smelly fingers, and then use water for another hygienic step (the most effective down to microroganism level) and clean your hand with soap and water afterward. the best soap to get rid smell are the one usually based on some soil or clay, but they are not easily available and more expensive than normal consumer soap. soil/clay/land is another ingredient for stubborn dirts/smells. fwiw. edit: another thing i forgot... clean your shit with your left hand and eat or shake hand with your right hand... ;)
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Re: Coronavirus cure
« Reply #88 on: March 30, 2020, 12:58:22 am »
I lived with the Malaysian Army in Bosnia for  a time.
I'm curious about how they cleaned their hands after their wipe up job?  That would be a good way to spread Covid19 these days.
using soap and water. if the smell doesnt go and its bothering you, rub your hand on rough surface like land soil or wall etc. if its contagious we should already find another better way much earlier. but thats how we are taught and used to from child hood. water is proven cleanser found everywhere. i do agree using both toilet paper and water will give best result, toilet paper used to take out large amount of those dirty stuff off and to avoid smelly fingers, and then use water for another hygienic step (the most effective down to microroganism level) and clean your hand with soap and water afterward. the best soap to get rid smell are the one usually based on some soil or clay, but they are not easily available and more expensive than normal consumer soap. soil/clay/land is another ingredient for stubborn dirts/smells. fwiw. edit: another thing i forgot... clean your shit with your left hand and eat or shake hand with your right hand... ;)

Why not wash the rear end with soap and water, if you are going to use water?  - it seems the best and most hygienic solution overall...
 

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Re: Coronavirus cure
« Reply #89 on: March 31, 2020, 01:00:12 pm »


Where would we be without Zinc?

Which actually is more on point than just about every other post in this thread. Doesn't *anyone* read widely?
Those who do, will get the Zinc reference. Also this:



That's a prescription my GP issued me on Monday 31st Mar.
The intention was to stick them in the fridge, for emergency use IFF I do happen to catch it, develop symptoms serious enough to need a hospital, but by then hospitals are overwhelmed.  I'm unlucky enough to have an impaired immune system (due to genetic haemochromatosis), plus not one but two _other_ underlying medical problems, neither of which would go well with COVID.

Anyone who has been paying serious attention will recognize that actual, proven COVID cure combination. Plus zinc supplements, but no need for that on the prescription since that's commonly available, and I already have them and have been taking them for years.  Along with ascorbic acid, D3 and a metabolic alkalinizer (look up the primary ingredient of Ural, and figure out the supermarket name for bulk packs of that.)

But, fat lot of good the prescription will do me. Turns out I should have done that early last week, since this week there is no hydroxychloroquine to be had anywhere. Every chemist is completely out. Also the chemists exhibit a wide spectrum of knowledge through to total ignorance about why it's suddenly popular. Probably related to the ratio of their reliance on the net vs MSM/gov for information.

See also attached PDF for background.

I was surprised to find my GP has a quite accurate understanding of the political agendas in play atm. Particularly that he's aware big pharma doesn't want a 50 cent, unpatentable cure, they want to make billions from an eventual vaccine, after everyone in the world has been sufficiently terrorized. If in fact they want a cure at all, or would prefer a world population below one billion.
FWIW, my GP hasn't yet seen even a single case of COVID, despite working in a very busy medical center.

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« Reply #90 on: March 31, 2020, 01:38:41 pm »
Your GP, if he exists, is as much a cowboy as you are.

And the letter, thanking someone with no medical authority for something they haven't done and using you as a reference, is a joke..

I still can't decide if you're a troll or really believe what you spout.
 

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« Reply #91 on: March 31, 2020, 01:50:12 pm »
Why not wash the rear end with soap and water, if you are going to use water?  - it seems the best and most hygienic solution overall...
yes we use soap and water to clean the rear end, and then soap and water on the hand cleaning it. in more difficult situation like army in jungle or on the trip where soap isnt available, we'll only use water both on rear end and the hand. in even more difficult situation where water is not available, then we will find harder things like tissue, dead leave or stone.
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« Reply #92 on: March 31, 2020, 02:10:08 pm »
Why not wash the rear end with soap and water, if you are going to use water?  - it seems the best and most hygienic solution overall...
yes we use soap and water to clean the rear end, and then soap and water on the hand cleaning it. in more difficult situation like army in jungle or on the trip where soap isnt available, we'll only use water both on rear end and the hand. in even more difficult situation where water is not available, then we will find harder things like tissue, dead leave or stone.

Every home should have a bidet.  Smearing it around with a piece of paper is convenient, but not really clean...
 

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« Reply #93 on: March 31, 2020, 04:22:16 pm »
I always moisten the toilet paper a little, if I can, before wiping, otherwise it's not very effective.
 

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« Reply #94 on: April 02, 2020, 11:00:58 am »
Your GP, if he exists, is as much a cowboy as you are.

And the letter, thanking someone with no medical authority for something they haven't done and using you as a reference, is a joke..

I still can't decide if you're a troll or really believe what you spout.

Hi there Monkeh.  Apart from the 'Global' effort to obviously work on a Vaccine, Australia has also been in the forefront for the last few weeks, working on what 'seems' to actually KILL the virus in your body, after contracting it. This is a 2 pronged attack, which has been/being vastly researched as quick as they can, over the last week or two.

The Drug that TerraHertz was talking about, (Hydroxychloroquine), is ONE of the drugs being tested here, along with one of the 'old' drugs that used to be used for the treatment of AIDS. This also 'old' drug, Hydroxychloroquinine, is an old treatment/cure for Malaria!! (Notice the last part of the product name... 'Quinine'). Can also be obtained in many drink additives to make it 'bitter'. (Also stops muscle cramps!).

I do not think he was trying to talk rubbish, or act like a 'troll'??? However, we all need to know about & share current knowledge.
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« Reply #95 on: April 03, 2020, 01:29:52 am »
I do not think he was trying to talk rubbish, or act like a 'troll'??? However, we all need to know about & share current knowledge.

Glenn, thanks but you're wasting your time there. I think the key phrase is 'troll' (malicious motive.) Or perhaps shill (someone with a deceptive, possibly wage-related motive) or just plain comprehension impaired.

But since we're here...
Your GP, if he exists, is as much a cowboy as you are.

Lead with a personal insult, always a good sign of honest intent. If my GP doesn't exist, that's a great photoshop of a prescription, don't you think? Cropped to protect identities. Yes, his typing really is that bad. Pretty funny. I like the guy btw, so feel doubly insulted.

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And the letter, thanking someone with no medical authority for something they haven't done
ONE inconsequential line in a two page letter, and it's the only thing you single out? Plus you're wrong, he specifically did push for testing of hydroxychloroquine, as President, backed by the medical authority of his advisers. And then who tried to block that? Three Dem state governors, "with no medical authority" and no legal authority either, since the FDA/CDC had authorized it.
Meanwhile you ignore the entire rest of the letter, relating a quite large scale ad-hoc demonstration of the stated drug combination's effectiveness. Why?  It's just one of several such btw, but I saw no reason to list them all. Though you can find them among the references I provided.

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and using you as a reference, is a joke..
This is where we cross into mental retardation territory. Did you seriously not comprehend that the links on page 2 of the PDF, under the ruler and in different font, are added by me? I didn't explicitly state that, since it didn't occur to me that anyone would be so dense as to not see that as obvious. Quite apart from all the linked materials having dates subsequent to the letter.
Anyway, the first link is to an article reviewing the chemistry and history of quinine derivatives and their use. By an Australian academic chemist. It's quite interesting. But that's OK, no need to thank me for mentioning it.
That and the others are my footnotes of relevant sources, for only those with inquiring minds, discernment, and initiative to download the PDF.

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I still can't decide if you're a troll or really believe what you spout.

Sorry, I'd have to get off my trusty silver steed and coil up my lariat to explain especially for you. But I doubt the effort would be productive. Bye.
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« Reply #96 on: April 03, 2020, 02:15:28 am »
I apologise for missing that you added that to the letter. Taken in that light, slightly less of a joke - Trump is still a loudmouth (a fatally loud one, it turns out) with no medical authority, though.

As for the rest... your GP's still a cowboy, you're still a conspiracy nut, and there is no cure at this time (if ever). There's potential treatment, to be administered to severe cases, under observation, and still undergoing trials.
 

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« Reply #97 on: April 03, 2020, 08:10:58 pm »
After being Frustrated to no end with all the Comments and Videos on Facebook 'linking' 5G to the CoronaVirus, and that the Vaccines that they are working on, will include a Tracking Microchip, I decided to do a quick video of my own. Trying my best to Dispel some of the Mistruths, and just trying to inform people.

You can check it out below. And also, remember to Like and Subscribe...

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« Reply #98 on: April 04, 2020, 12:47:32 pm »
After being Frustrated to no end with all the Comments and Videos on Facebook 'linking' 5G to the CoronaVirus, and that the Vaccines that they are working on, will include a Tracking Microchip, I decided to do a quick video of my own. Trying my best to Dispel some of the Mistruths, and just trying to inform people.

You can check it out below. And also, remember to Like and Subscribe...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=NAHe7uFZ6qM

In the old days, people believed in witchcraft...   in the 50's and 60's, people ended up in mental hospitals thinking they were being controlled by radar, or laser, or any of the technologies that were new at the time.  Today, "the unknowing" worry about cell phone radiation, vaccinations, and any number of other things that they do not have the training or knowledge to understand.  Because they can't trust "experts" (largely due to the Dunning-Kruger effect [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect] one suspects), they end up going with their own superstitions instead.  Sadly, there are so many messed up people like that.  Enough to get leaders of modern countries elected by them...

 

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« Reply #99 on: April 04, 2020, 01:48:43 pm »
   I just watched a TV show that included interviews with some flat-earthers.  They're just f'ing unbelievably crazy. Forget trying to reason with this type people.
 


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