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Corperate greed & the 737 max, read this

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BravoV:

--- Quote from: pickle9000 on September 25, 2020, 03:39:20 am ---I think it has to be re-certified in Europe as well and it's not just a rubber stamp as is the norm.

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It will be norm, trust me, all it needs just a single phone call from the POTUS to the European country that do the certification.  >:D

pickle9000:

--- Quote from: BravoV on September 25, 2020, 05:29:58 am ---
--- Quote from: pickle9000 on September 25, 2020, 03:39:20 am ---I think it has to be re-certified in Europe as well and it's not just a rubber stamp as is the norm.

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It will be norm, trust me, all it needs just a single phone call from the POTUS to the European country that do the certification.  >:D

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That is too funny, could you imagine what Trump would say.

BravoV:

--- Quote from: pickle9000 on September 25, 2020, 05:50:28 am ---
--- Quote from: BravoV on September 25, 2020, 05:29:58 am ---
--- Quote from: pickle9000 on September 25, 2020, 03:39:20 am ---I think it has to be re-certified in Europe as well and it's not just a rubber stamp as is the norm.

--- End quote ---

It will be norm, trust me, all it needs just a single phone call from the POTUS to the European country that do the certification.  >:D

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That is too funny, could you imagine what Trump would say.

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Thats easy .... "I will make your Airbus life harder, really-really hard ... so ... just do it as I ask, OR ELSE !!!"  :-DD

Rick Law:

--- Quote from: fourtytwo42 on September 24, 2020, 08:27:29 pm ---Just released, congressional ? report
Makes horrendous reading
This is what our once proud engineering profession has been reduced to by the bean counters
Anybody want to fly one of these things has to be stir crazy
https://transportation.house.gov/imo/media/doc/2020.09.15%20FINAL%20737%20MAX%20Report%20for%20Public%20Release.pdf
BUT how many other bit's of crap are out there that our lives depend upon that have yet to be uncovered ?

Our world seems on a downward trajectory............

BIG attitude problem  :palm:

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No doubt cost cutting (profit seeking) and coziness between the FAA and Boeing is an issue, but congressional reports should be taken with a ton of salt.  They tend to be political.

Two important points:

(1) About congressional committee reports

If you notice prominently displayed on the cover is the report was prepared by the "majority party staff" for the "majority party chairman".   Most if not all serving in Congress are career politicians.  Which ever party happens to be the majority tends to disregard opinions and conclusions of those in the "minority party" when it is in their political interest to do so. 

I am not accusing anyone of misrepresenting the truths here in this report.  I am however pointing out readers need to keep in mind what are the political motives, if any.

(2) FAA mission conflict which enabled coziness between regulator and regulated

The FAA has a mission-conflict problem.  In a nutshell, FAA was established to regulate and to promote aviation.  Regulation increase cost, yet cost increase is often counter to promoting the industry.  The wording was later changed from "promoting aviation" to "encourage aviation".  But still, the mission conflict between "regulate aviation" and "encourage aviation" are apparently not compatible enough to be easily housed under one roof.

The Los Angeles Times had a pretty good article about this issue:
https://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-faa-ntsb-boeing-737-crash-20190322-story.html

chickenHeadKnob:
The other important news out of Boeing in the last week is shutting down 787 production in Everett and moving it all to Charleston SC. Boeing built 787 in both plants but the South Carolina facility is non-unionized. It also produces significantly poorer quality aircraft, with more initial defects.


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