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| magic:
You bet :) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K1810VM86 Wouldn't be surprised if China also had something at one point. As for 7106/7107, sure, they have been cloned many times and many years ago all over the commie countries. To this day every $5 multimeter ships with a 7106 clone. |
| Karel:
--- Quote from: Cerebus on January 31, 2020, 12:46:46 pm ---They deliberately damaged other people's property with malice aforethought. --- End quote --- They didn't damage the fake chip. They wrote a value to a non-volatile memory inside the fake chip so that the OS didn't recognize the fake chip anymore. Btw, if you write back the old value into the fake chip (using Linux and a small piece of software), the fake chip starts to work again. So, no physical damage. If you ask me, it was brilliant :-DD |
| iMo:
--- Quote from: magic on January 31, 2020, 08:04:22 pm ---You bet :) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K1810VM86 --- End quote --- Soviets or DDR did 2.5mm pitch DIL40 afaik.. |
| Mr Evil:
--- Quote from: Karel on January 31, 2020, 08:34:33 pm ---They didn't damage the fake chip. They wrote a value to a non-volatile memory inside the fake chip so that the OS didn't recognize the fake chip anymore. Btw, if you write back the old value into the fake chip (using Linux and a small piece of software), the fake chip starts to work again. So, no physical damage. If you ask me, it was brilliant :-DD --- End quote --- Technically the damage could be reversed, yes, but you're thinking about it like an EE. From an ordinary end-user's perspective, their device simply stops working, they have no way of knowing why, and it's as good as dead. Totally unfair. |
| Cerebus:
--- Quote from: Karel on January 31, 2020, 08:34:33 pm --- --- Quote from: Cerebus on January 31, 2020, 12:46:46 pm ---They deliberately damaged other people's property with malice aforethought. --- End quote --- They didn't damage the fake chip. They wrote a value to a non-volatile memory inside the fake chip so that the OS didn't recognize the fake chip anymore. Btw, if you write back the old value into the fake chip (using Linux and a small piece of software), the fake chip starts to work again. So, no physical damage. If you ask me, it was brilliant :-DD --- End quote --- Of course that is damage, it's not physical damage, but it's still damage. Deliberately turning off the electricity to someone else's dwelling doesn't physically damage anything, but I know someone who was threatened with prosecution for criminal damage for doing exactly that. (It was some university friends whose landlord would turn off their electricity supply regularly to try and control them. They were law students, their professor set their landlord straight with a letter that promised to have him in criminal court so fast his feet wouldn't touch the ground if he did it again. The professor also arranged a visit by the police. The landlord, sensibly, stopped.) |
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