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vodka:

--- Quote from: drussell on March 22, 2020, 05:29:02 pm ---
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--- Quote from: not1xor1 on March 22, 2020, 07:12:33 am ---it is hard to realize how quickly this gets out of control

in 3-4 days US is likely to become the first country in the world for no. of cases
I think on next Sunday it will get 200-300 thousands cases and around 3-4 thousands deaths
in 2 weeks deaths might probably exceed 10'000 and might even get close to 20'000

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  I wish that I could say that you're wrong.  I thought that the large number of new cases being reported might be due to previously untested individuals that they were just  getting around to testing but even after more than a week of large scale testing, the new case number is staying high so most of them probably really are newly infected individuals.
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I would argue that the USA has not even begun what I would call "large scale testing."  The best data I can find shows that they had only tested 100,000 people by Friday, in total, across the entire country so far!  That is what, about a 15-20% positive rate after testing only about one in every 3300 of the population?  They haven't really even begun to test everyone that should be tested, those with possible symptoms or known exposure.  There are likely hundreds of thousands more people in the US infected already by this point, and sadly the stated control method is to play "Whack-A-Mole."   :palm:


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Like many countries in Europe, because they haven't sufficent test for everyone.

engrguy42:
drussel, where do you get your numbers from? CDC doesn't report on weekends, and WHO's data is from Friday the 20th. And both of those agree on a figure of 15k.

I think it's important to choose a single and arguably reliable source rather than grabbing data from whatever pops up. I may be wrong, but in the US I would assume the final authority is the Centers for Disease Control (CDC), and I assume they forward that to WHO as official data, which is why WHO data seems to lag 1 day behind. 

Sredni:

--- Quote from: imo on March 22, 2020, 06:24:09 pm ---If this happened 40y back you would hardly notice it as a pandemic of this scale. A bit stronger seasonal flu. More fatalities would be "averaged" in the yearly flu statistics..

Italy or Spain 40y back - that would be an epidemic, medialized in "in the West" as "a strong wave of flu hitting Europe",

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You have got to be kidding.
Are you this blind?

Do you have any idea of what is going on in Italy and Spain right now?

The hospitals of entire regions are saturated.
Doctors and nurses are getting infected and are dying.
The army had to carry away the coffins for incineration to take place in other provinces.

And you are still talking about a "strong flu"?

not1xor1:
now I do not believe any longer to those newspaper  :D
so I ask: does anybody know if this is true:


--- Quote ---Coronavirus, the Tyrolean village that infected half of Europe
Since February, more than a thousand northern European tourists have become infected in Ischgl. But only now the village has been declared a red zone. «Delays not to compromise the ski season»
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full article translated from Italian

vodka:

--- Quote from: imo on March 22, 2020, 06:24:09 pm ---
--- Quote from: nctnico on March 22, 2020, 05:49:54 pm ---
--- Quote from: SiliconWizard on March 22, 2020, 05:06:41 pm ---If anything, this should teach us how fragile our whole society has become. Seeing how one small virus can wreak havoc, imagine anything worse than this (which is not at all unlikely)?

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Actually I think society is better equiped than ever. Imagine the Corona outbreak happened 20 years ago with the internet still in it's infancy? It is our modern communication systems which keep things going right now. All the data to stop the outbreak is shared quickly without risk of actually spreading the infection. And the Corona virus isn't the first outbreak ever.

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If this happened 40y back you would hardly notice it as a pandemic of this scale. A bit stronger seasonal flu. More fatalities would be "averaged" in the yearly flu statistics..

For example China 40y back - even the number of infected and fatalities would had been 100x higher than today nobody would know outside China..

Italy or Spain 40y back - that would be an epidemic, medialized in "in the West" as "a strong wave of flu hitting Europe", and the Eastern Bloc - while hiding the real numbers there - happily finger pointing the "low level of healthcare in the West".

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40 years ago , an image  is best than 1000 words. This would be in the first page of the newspaper

https://youtu.be/4aAo_-b9XuA

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