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Mr. Scram:

--- Quote from: SiliconWizard on March 24, 2020, 06:36:34 pm ---In South Korea, there was no real confinement to speak of - from all witnessing I've got, people were almost living their lives as usual, few shops/companies shut down, and almost everyone with a mask. Meanwhile, we keep saying it doesn't work, yet we had to confine people in a lot stricter way than they ever did in SK, and we still don't know what's going to happen.

Oh, and if masks don't work, why do all the medical practitioners currently wear one? Explain the conundrum.

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The reason for any difference should be abundantly clear. Not only do medics know they're actually in close contact with the airborne virus, crucially they're also properly trained and have the discipline to properly implement their training. Meanwhile, the medical industry has huge trouble getting people to adhere to even the most basic instructions. You know what they say about making things idiot proof.

Just pointing at masks and speculating that must be the reason things were different in South Korea is dangerous unless you're very sure that's true. Just a few idiots adding to the problem would have a massive fallout. Expecting the public at large to behave on par with well trained medical professionals is inviting disaster. The food industry has trouble with it so there really is no hope.

I don't think the proponents of masks understand that in some medical laboratories gloves are actually prohibited for general use as a measure to promote better hand hygiene. What you intuitively think is better and what actually is better aren't always the same. Don't just do something just to do something and because it makes you feel better about things.
PlainName:

--- Quote ---Unfortunately there's a small portion who become gravely ill
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About 20% isn't it? And an similarly small portion of those that will die even after treatment. If it were just those numbers one could be forgiven for considering the risk pretty low.

The trouble with this is that those 20% who would just have a bad time and recover only do so with the help of ICU. Once the hospitals run out of resources those 20% are going to be lucky to live. And they'll be taking non-CV patients with them that would ordinarily have survived whatever they're suffering from but now won't because there is no health service available to treat them.

nctnico:

--- Quote from: SiliconWizard on March 24, 2020, 06:36:34 pm ---Oh, and if masks don't work, why do all the medical practitioners currently wear one? Explain the conundrum.

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The point is that medical practitioners know how to use masks properly. The general public does not and that likely causes more harm than good. A mask has a limited useful life, needs to be handled right, disposed right, etc. It is pretty much the same discussion when isolation transformers come into play. If you drill down deeper you'll see that there are a lot of (not so obvious) conditions that need to be met for an isolation transformer to increase safety instead of actually reducing safety.

See these mask wearing guidelines from the WHO:
https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public/when-and-how-to-use-masks
Quote from the top video 'If you do not have symptoms then don't use a mask because there is no evidence it protects you'.
Mr. Scram:

--- Quote from: dunkemhigh on March 24, 2020, 07:48:32 pm ---About 20% isn't it? And an similarly small portion of those that will die even after treatment. If it were just those numbers one could be forgiven for considering the risk pretty low.

The trouble with this is that those 20% who would just have a bad time and recover only do so with the help of ICU. Once the hospitals run out of resources those 20% are going to be lucky to live. And they'll be taking non-CV patients with them that would ordinarily have survived whatever they're suffering from but now won't because there is no health service available to treat them.

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As far as I know the percentage is much smaller for people <60 and probably a bit bigger for those over 70. That's of the known cases. It appears the total number is between 0% and 5% but that number is still being assessed.
Bud:
Oh-oh

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-24/youtube-to-limit-video-quality-around-the-world-for-a-month
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