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SiliconWizard:

--- Quote from: Bud on March 24, 2020, 08:10:16 pm ---Oh-oh

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-24/youtube-to-limit-video-quality-around-the-world-for-a-month

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That makes sense. Imagine a major outage of Internet access in various parts of the world during this crisis. It would be a complete disaster.
Some providers already had a hard time keeping up the last few days...

SilverSolder:

--- Quote from: nctnico on March 24, 2020, 08:00:17 pm ---
Quote from the top video 'If you do not have symptoms then don't use a mask because there is no evidence it protects you'.

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If everyone wears masks, even those that don't know they have the disease are protecting the rest of the population?

nctnico:

--- Quote from: imo on March 24, 2020, 08:30:41 pm ---The general public masks (ie DIY) protect the environment around the Wearer from droplets he/she is spreading by coughing and sneezing and talking. Those are his/her droplets with his/her viruses caught by the mask he/she is wearing. That has been explicitly said here many times, afaik.

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That is a misconception. Just read the WHO guidelines again. A mask only works if the wearer knows how to use a mask. Note that I used the word 'use' and not 'wear'. Wearing is mask is one thing, knowing how to use it effectively is another. IF it served a purpose for everyone to wear a mask then the WHO would have certainly recommended it. Now ofcourse people will chime in and say there aren't enough masks but even the WHO would be clever enough to tell us how to make our own mask from whatever material we have available. But they don't. So there is your answer.

SiliconWizard:

--- Quote from: imo on March 24, 2020, 08:30:41 pm ---I've never ever heard or seen somebody saying those general public face masks can protect you against the virus. In opposite, all say "be aware the simple mask do not protect against the virus".  All what CDC or WHO says is true, absolutely. The argument "you need trained medical personnel who can handle masks properly" is perfectly valid for laboratory and medical environment where the personnel is exposed to bacterial or viral infection.

The general public masks (ie DIY) protect the environment around the Wearer from droplets he/she is spreading by coughing and sneezing and talking. Those are his/her droplets with his/her viruses caught by the mask he/she is wearing. That has been explicitly said here many times, afaik.

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Absolutely. Knowing that most of the viral charge from one person to another comes from droplets AFAIK, so it's very important to at least contain them.

And again, no one said that was a bulletproof solution. But anything that can objectively lower the viral charge people are likely to be exposed to is a good thing, and that can just be the difference between life and death.

nctnico:

--- Quote from: SiliconWizard on March 24, 2020, 08:38:57 pm ---
--- Quote from: imo on March 24, 2020, 08:30:41 pm ---I've never ever heard or seen somebody saying those general public face masks can protect you against the virus. In opposite, all say "be aware the simple mask do not protect against the virus".  All what CDC or WHO says is true, absolutely. The argument "you need trained medical personnel who can handle masks properly" is perfectly valid for laboratory and medical environment where the personnel is exposed to bacterial or viral infection.

The general public masks (ie DIY) protect the environment around the Wearer from droplets he/she is spreading by coughing and sneezing and talking. Those are his/her droplets with his/her viruses caught by the mask he/she is wearing. That has been explicitly said here many times, afaik.

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Absolutely. Knowing that most of the viral charge from one person to another comes from droplets AFAIK, so it's very important to at least contain them.

And again, no one said that was a bulletproof solution. But anything that can objectively lower the viral charge people are likely to be exposed to is a good thing, and that can just be the difference between life and death.

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IF this where true then the WHO would certainly recommend it. See my reply above. I don't get why people keep insisting on denying what the experts who are literally at the front line are saying.

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