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| Mr. Scram:
--- Quote from: dunkemhigh on March 24, 2020, 08:45:06 pm --- --- Quote ---A mask only works if the wearer knows how to use a mask. --- End quote --- For varying values of 'work'. If you wear a mask incorrectly, does it do anything at all? I would suggest it has some effect - it won't be the 'proper' working fully protective effect, but it would surely be better than nothing at all, wouldn't it? Kind of like if you wear a crash helmet incorrectly it's not going to be as effective as if you did it up properly, but there's a non-zero possibility that it will lessen a bash on your bonce all the same. [OK, not quite analogous because an incorrectly worn helmet might kill you whereas a mask won't, but let's not go down that kind of rabbit hole.] --- End quote --- The research that was posted shows that PPE can and often does lead to more careless behaviour. This is a known issue in the medical field and elsewhere. Your assessment that you cannot make it worse is therefore demonstrably incorrect. Professionals know this and still suffer the issue. Laymen absolutely will too. |
| iMo:
--- Quote ---IF this where true then the WHO would certainly recommend it. --- End quote --- I wonder what happens with "WHO" after this pandemic finishes.. |
| nctnico:
--- Quote from: imo on March 24, 2020, 08:58:27 pm --- --- Quote ---IF this where true then the WHO would certainly recommend it. --- End quote --- I wonder what happens with "WHO" after this pandemic finishes.. --- End quote --- So now all you have to add is a conspiracy theory? |
| thinkfat:
Of course it doesn't make sense for Joe Average to wear a face mask that would be suitable for use by a medical practitioner, in a hospital, ER, ICU, etc . It's just wasted on him. Nobody recommends wearing these while we have a shortage of them anyway. We'll soon see recommendations or even requirements for people to wear something over their mouth and nose when they go to the grocery store. --- Quote from: SilverSolder on March 24, 2020, 08:54:49 pm ---In what circumstances would a mask not prevent or significantly reduce "spitting" from someone talking or sneezing? --- End quote --- Exactly. Since this is going to be with us for quite a while, I expect Versace to create a face mask collection. People will want to maintain style while queueing for toilet paper. |
| thinkfat:
--- Quote from: Mr. Scram on March 24, 2020, 08:41:13 pm --- --- Quote from: imo on March 24, 2020, 08:30:41 pm ---I've never ever heard or seen somebody saying those general public face masks can protect you against the virus. In opposite, all say "be aware the simple mask do not protect against the virus". All what CDC or WHO says is true, absolutely. The argument "you need trained medical personnel who can handle masks properly" is perfectly valid for laboratory and medical environment where the personnel is exposed to bacterial or viral infection. The general public masks (ie DIY) protect the environment around the Wearer from droplets he/she is spreading by coughing and sneezing and talking. Those are his/her droplets with his/her viruses caught by the mask he/she is wearing. That has been explicitly said here many times, afaik. --- End quote --- An infected person tugging at a virus soaked mask sounds like a great idea. --- End quote --- An infected person spitting, coughing and sneezing without one is definitely a worse idea. |
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