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iMo:

--- Quote from: Mr. Scram on March 24, 2020, 09:12:08 pm ---
--- Quote from: thinkfat on March 24, 2020, 09:07:34 pm ---An infected person spitting, coughing and sneezing without one is definitely a worse idea.

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The WHO recommendation for infected people is to stay inside. An infected person spitting, coughing and sneezing outside is a bad idea full stop.

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You may read the WHO recommendation aloud to the overcrowded people in the London Underground carriages before they sneeze in someone else's face. Btw, I saw once a "droplet" around 2cm large flying several meters off the sneezing guy  :-DD

FYI - the masks exercise ie CZ runs is because the Wearers of the masks DO NOT KNOW they are infected (as 80% of infected get only mild or none symptoms and many of them do not realize they are infected at all).

nctnico:

--- Quote from: dunkemhigh on March 24, 2020, 09:20:18 pm ---
--- Quote from: Mr. Scram on March 24, 2020, 09:14:24 pm ---
--- Quote from: dunkemhigh on March 24, 2020, 09:10:17 pm ---Complete waste of time asking NOT to pull that kind of trick, wasn't it? In what way is a mask going to be similar to having your knees rammed up your arse?

Nah, forget it. I can see it was a bad move to attempt any discussion in this thread.

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The issue is that some people override the recommendations of the WHO and additional evidence presented in favour of their own seat of the pants reasoning.

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No, the issue is that totally inappropriate stuff is being passed off as similar. You've pointed out some issues and the Telegraph has been quoted. They're appropriate. Suggesting wearing a mask is like having your legs blown off is not, and just ensures no-one listens to such hyperbolic cobblers.

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OK, I'm sorry about the hyperbolic. Putting your feet on the dashboard only endangers yourself. Using a mask the wrong way endangers not only yourself but others too. So all in all the situations where safety devices are being used wrong aren't 100% similar. Happy now?

thinkfat:

--- Quote from: Mr. Scram on March 24, 2020, 09:12:08 pm ---
--- Quote from: thinkfat on March 24, 2020, 09:07:34 pm ---An infected person spitting, coughing and sneezing without one is definitely a worse idea.

--- End quote ---
The WHO recommendation for infected people is to stay inside. An infected person spitting, coughing and sneezing outside is a bad idea full stop.

--- End quote ---

There's a study that hints (if I didn't misinterpret what I heard about it), 44% of transmissions happen before patients show symptoms, i.e. before they're coughing and sneezing. Make everybody wear a mask (scarf, buff, whatever)  - 44% of transmissions gone.

Source: my currently favourite podcast:

Sorry, German language. Maybe Youtube adds an automatic translation.
EDIT: IT does, but the translation is completely unusable gibberish.

SilverSolder:

--- Quote from: thinkfat on March 24, 2020, 10:01:50 pm ---
--- Quote from: Mr. Scram on March 24, 2020, 09:12:08 pm ---
--- Quote from: thinkfat on March 24, 2020, 09:07:34 pm ---An infected person spitting, coughing and sneezing without one is definitely a worse idea.

--- End quote ---
The WHO recommendation for infected people is to stay inside. An infected person spitting, coughing and sneezing outside is a bad idea full stop.

--- End quote ---

There's a study that hints (if I'm didn't misinterpret what I heard about it), 44% of transmissions happen before patients show symptoms, i.e. before they're coughing and sneezing. Make everybody wear a mask (scarf, buff, whatever)  - 44% of transmissions gone.

Source: my currently favourite podcast:

Sorry, German language. Maybe Youtube adds an automatic translation.

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Wearing masks seems to work for the Asian countries.

engrguy42:
FWIW, attached is some data generated from the daily W.H.O. situation reports, including the latest update today (March 24). The chart shows the total deaths to date in the US (yellow bars), as well as the new deaths each day in the US since the start (dark blue bars).

Note that for the last week or so the new deaths each day in the US has been fairly flat, in the 40-60 range, except for yesterday's report which showed a huge spike of 201 new deaths. Today's report dropped back down to 69 new deaths.

Also is a spreadsheet list of the total deaths and new deaths as of today for the 8 countries with the top numbers of total deaths since the beginning. FWIW, the US is presently in 6th place, with 471 deaths so far. Italy has the most at this point with 6,077 total deaths.

I also included the new deaths for today for those 8 countries. Italy and Spain had the most (601 and 462, respectively), with the US at 69 new deaths, and China the least with 7.   

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