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| vad:
I’ve noticed that Amazon has been pushing back delivery dates to late April. As Amazon Prime member I’m used to free 2-day and even next day delivery. I browsed Amazon for few things yesterday and today, and I’ve noticed that many items had magical delivery date of April 22. Some items were still available for delivery this or next week, but most had that strange ETA. Is Amazon shutting down some of its distribution centers? |
| Mr. Scram:
--- Quote from: edavid on March 24, 2020, 09:18:13 pm ---On the other hand, wearing masks in public is now mandatory in many places, for example Hong Kong and the Czech Republic. Is WHO telling those countries to change their rules? (Answer: no) Here's a good article about the inconsistent and illogical messaging on this subject: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/17/opinion/coronavirus-face-masks.html --- End quote --- Do they need to address each country when their advice differs explicitly? The WHO may not have all the answers but you can be bloody sure their advice is more evidence based than that of most countries. |
| Leo Bodnar:
I recall that around 75% of infections in Wuhan were caused by asymptomatic carriers. Don't forget that you can cough or sneeze irrespective of the fact that you are also carrying SARS-CoV-2 but have not had any symptoms yet (average is around 5.1 days.) Leo |
| Mr. Scram:
--- Quote from: Leo Bodnar on March 24, 2020, 10:40:10 pm ---I recall that around 75% of infections in Wuhan were caused by asymptomatic carriers. Don't forget that you can cough or sneeze irrespective of the fact that you are also carrying SARS-CoV-2 but have not had any symptoms yet (average is around 5.1 days.) Leo --- End quote --- I feel we're going round in circles. The issue is that people don't have the proper training and discipline. They are likely to tug at infected masks and display more risky behaviour. |
| SiliconWizard:
--- Quote from: Mr. Scram on March 24, 2020, 09:12:08 pm --- --- Quote from: thinkfat on March 24, 2020, 09:07:34 pm ---An infected person spitting, coughing and sneezing without one is definitely a worse idea. --- End quote --- The WHO recommendation for infected people is to stay inside. An infected person spitting, coughing and sneezing outside is a bad idea full stop. --- End quote --- I think we all agree on this. By now I have gotten that you'll be stubborn with this mask thing until the cows come home anyway. I just hope you never have to get out yourself so that it doesn't have any consequence. ::) But do you realize, just from the above sentence, that there is a fundamental flaw? One thing we know is that there are probably MANY people infected but without any visible symptom. We are all spitting small droplets all the time even without realizing it, and it's likely more than enough to infect someone else nearby. No need to be coughing and sneezing like crazy. (As SilverSolder also just noted, anything decently dense in front of your mouth and nose can only help with that. Doesn't mean you should just get out with your mask and teasingly cough at anyone your run into. ) Knowing that obvious fact, the part we can read here: https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public/when-and-how-to-use-masks --- Quote ---- If you are healthy, you only need to wear a mask if you are taking care of a person with suspected 2019-nCoV infection. - Wear a mask if you are coughing or sneezing. --- End quote --- Sentence 1 clearly implies that wearing a mask helps protecting yourself. Sentence 2, from what I said above, seems stupid. Sorry WHO. You don't need to be coughing or sneezing to be potentially infected. That said, neither of those recommendations claim that masks are useless either. |
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