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not1xor1:

--- Quote from: Sredni on March 25, 2020, 12:28:07 am ---A sample of some South Korean people thoughts on how they think their country is faring better than others.

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SK South Korea death vs amount of cases is increasing and currently 1.379% (126/9137*100)
https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

in SK South Korea the virus at first spread within a religious sect and the vast majority of affected people were young women, i.e. one of the lowest risk group, so mortality there appeared much lower than in other parts of the world

in Italy and Spain the virus started in hospitals and nursing homes and so in some parts of the countries the mortality rate may even be around 10%

IMHO China strategy is better, I just wish it could be enforced here in Italy where we are still far from seeing a substantial improvement (we are unsure if there is a real albeit small improvement or if that is due to other confounding factors)

BTW viral check has always a small percentage of false negatives and even real negative people may become positive while they wait the test result
iMo:

--- Quote ---in SK KR the virus at first spread within a religious sect
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KR - South Korea
KP - North Korea
SK - Slovakia
Electro Detective:

--- Quote from: VK3DRB on March 25, 2020, 12:59:19 am ---
..As India is in lock down we won't be getting as many phone calls from low-life Microsoft Help Desk scammers for a couple of weeks..


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Hey yeah, no tard voiced cold calls for a while now  ???

or they got fed up with the awesome european mates inspired  :-+  gutter insults delivered in aussie speak   :o 
and imitating their cloned voices and useless predictable sales spin they parrot from their screen  :palm:

 
thinkfat:

--- Quote from: Mr. Scram on March 24, 2020, 11:29:22 pm ---
--- Quote from: engrguy42 on March 24, 2020, 11:21:19 pm ---Geez, you guys are still arguing about freakin' masks?  :-//

Wear 'em if you got 'em. Can't hurt.

But if you're really smart you'll grab one of them big 5 gallon water bottles and wrap it around your head instead.  :-+

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It can hurt. That's the whole point.  :palm:

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People here playing with numbers tell you you're 50% likely to be in the same space as an infected person while shopping food. Without getting hung up on the assumptions going into these calculation and their merits, let's just assume it being very likely. You'll casually meet this person with a certain probability. You'll become infected with a certain probability. Now imagine everyone wears a scarf in front of their mouth. Does this reduce the risk of getting infected or not?

In the end, your whole train of argument boils down to just one: People shouldn't wear masks because they will feel protected and exhibit risky behavior. But they do that anyway and wearing protection isn't going to make it worse. The instructions and procedures for wearing face masks are designed for highly infectious and hazardous environments. Your local Costco is no such environment. The London Underground - not so sure. Best avoid entirely, with a mask or not.

The whole idea behind all recommendations to not wear masks is anyway not increased risk of infection to the wearer, but because they are needed elsewhere and creating additional competition for the resource is a really bad idea right now. If the resource was plentiful, nobody would be making such recommendation. Rather, the opposite.

Again: a mask on Joe Averages' face will not protect him. But it will protect others from Joe spreading the virus without knowing. But so does a scarf. Should you therefore wear a mask that would better suit a medical professional - NO. Should you wear a scarf - Yes, by all means.
iMo:

--- Quote from: thinkfat on March 25, 2020, 09:58:35 am ---..
Again: a mask on Joe Averages' face will not protect him. But it will protect others from Joe spreading the virus without knowing. But so does a scarf. Should you therefore wear a mask that would better suit a medical professional - NO. Should you wear a scarf - Yes, by all means.

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The major problem I see is the many nations/cultures tend to look after an easy solutions to this pandemic problem.

So when you advice "wear a face mask" they tend to think they will get a big box with face masks delivered to their doorstep, with an "user manual" inside, and they will wear a mask and their life will continue exactly as it was before..

But wearing a mask is only one thing off MANY others you shall to do.

There are measures at State level (a long list) and then a list what general public should do (a shorter list).

Wearing a face mask is NOT a substitution for "stay at home, do social distancing, wash your hands, ..". You shall DO ALL..

Thus the thought like "wearing a face mask could give you a false feeling of safety" indicates an absolute misunderstanding of the overall process. And the authorities in some countries shall be really careful with what they are telling to their citizens in that matter.


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