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Covid 19 virus
nctnico:
--- Quote from: thinkfat on March 25, 2020, 09:58:35 am ---Again: a mask on Joe Averages' face will not protect him. But it will protect others from Joe spreading the virus without knowing. But so does a scarf. Should you therefore wear a mask that would better suit a medical professional - NO. Should you wear a scarf - Yes, by all means.
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Wrong again. :palm: FFS read the WHO recommendations and the reasons posted earlier why (untrained) Joe average shouldn't be messing around with masks!
There is absolutely no scientific backing from the WHO for your opinions which you try to represent as facts.
Mr. Scram:
--- Quote from: thinkfat on March 25, 2020, 09:58:35 am ---People here playing with numbers tell you you're 50% likely to be in the same space as an infected person while shopping food. Without getting hung up on the assumptions going into these calculation and their merits, let's just assume it being very likely. You'll casually meet this person with a certain probability. You'll become infected with a certain probability. Now imagine everyone wears a scarf in front of their mouth. Does this reduce the risk of getting infected or not?
In the end, your whole train of argument boils down to just one: People shouldn't wear masks because they will feel protected and exhibit risky behavior. But they do that anyway and wearing protection isn't going to make it worse. The instructions and procedures for wearing face masks are designed for highly infectious and hazardous environments. Your local Costco is no such environment. The London Underground - not so sure. Best avoid entirely, with a mask or not.
The whole idea behind all recommendations to not wear masks is anyway not increased risk of infection to the wearer, but because they are needed elsewhere and creating additional competition for the resource is a really bad idea right now. If the resource was plentiful, nobody would be making such recommendation. Rather, the opposite.
Again: a mask on Joe Averages' face will not protect him. But it will protect others from Joe spreading the virus without knowing. But so does a scarf. Should you therefore wear a mask that would better suit a medical professional - NO. Should you wear a scarf - Yes, by all means.
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No, not by all means. We've been over this a couple of times now and the answers remain the same. You're forgetting the part where untrained people touch all kinds of things they shouldn't touch and may very well make things worse. Dispensing advice which differs from the WHO guidelines is a huge risk even for a well respected medical professional. Even when it's well intended laymen should probably refrain from doing so.
engrguy42:
People who 2 weeks ago thought WHO was a rock group are now experts. :-DD
(okay, that wasn't mine, I heard it from a friend yesterday, but still it's hilarious).
Mr. Scram:
--- Quote from: engrguy42 on March 25, 2020, 11:16:44 am ---People who 2 weeks ago thought WHO was a rock group are now experts. :-DD
(okay, that wasn't mine, I heard it from a friend yesterday, but still it's hilarious).
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Experts who know better than the actual experts at that. You either need a lot more than two PhDs for that, or a lot less. :-DD
Siwastaja:
--- Quote from: Mr. Scram on March 25, 2020, 12:31:34 pm ---Experts who know better than the actual experts at that. You either need a lot more than two PhDs for that, or a lot less. :-DD
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This is called "appeal to authority", and is utterly stupid here, because everyone here has looked at what WHO and other expert groups have to say. The fact that some others have reached a different conclusion than you, in a really complex matter, does not mean that you are now officially representing WHO and have understood everything they say 100% correctly. You can agree to disagree, but laughing at others like you are some magical God of the True Information sent by WHO not only makes you look stupid, it's detrimental to the quality of discussion. Maybe just drop it? No need to run in circles for pages after pages.
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