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engrguy42:

--- Quote from: Cerebus on March 25, 2020, 03:44:59 pm ---
--- Quote from: engrguy42 on March 25, 2020, 01:30:56 pm --- I'm hoping the US follows suit. Then people like me can get off their arses and do something useful.

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Why do you need to wait for the Government? We didn't sit around waiting for the government here, last week some of my neighbours printed out some flyers with contact details asking if people needed help or if there were people who were prepared to offer help and posted them through everybody's letterboxes. One instant, self-organized community support group.

If you want to do something useful, do it now. Check whether you've got some vulnerable neighbours you could shop for. See if your local church/community groups are organising something and volunteer. Or copy my neighbours and start up a neighbourhood community support group if there isn't something already existing that you can join in. Just needs a phone number, email address, a computer printer and some shoe leather.

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Yeah, good point. I'm just of the mindset that if there's some overall organization of the efforts by folks who know what's important it might be more effective. If the government is involved and directing then they'd probably be aware of stuff like "hey, we need a gazillion retired doctors and other medical professionals to get back to work, and oh by the way it would be great if we could get a  zillion volunteers to help them (getting them meals, driving them around, etc)".

Personally, being one of them old boomer dudes, I'm very wary of getting too involved with a disorganized group that doesn't know all the necessary procedures to make sure we're all safe and not putting ourselves at risk.

Generally that's the ONE thing that governments can often do right :)
engrguy42:

--- Quote from: imo on March 25, 2020, 04:30:16 pm ---
--- Quote from: Mr. Scram on March 24, 2020, 08:03:35 pm ---
--- Quote from: dunkemhigh on March 24, 2020, 07:48:32 pm ---About 20% isn't it? And an similarly small portion of those that will die even after treatment. If it were just those numbers one could be forgiven for considering the risk pretty low.

The trouble with this is that those 20% who would just have a bad time and recover only do so with the help of ICU. Once the hospitals run out of resources those 20% are going to be lucky to live. And they'll be taking non-CV patients with them that would ordinarily have survived whatever they're suffering from but now won't because there is no health service available to treat them.

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As far as I know the percentage is much smaller for people <60 and probably a bit bigger for those over 70. That's of the known cases. It appears the total number is between 0% and 5% but that number is still being assessed.

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NY gov Cuomo reported 3% of positive tested landed in ICU as of today [CNN: NY gov briefing].

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Isn't that consistent with what WHO has been posting all along in their daily Situation Updates? 3-4% of all confirmed cases end up in deaths?
Bud:

--- Quote from: imo on March 25, 2020, 04:30:16 pm ---NY gov Cuomo reported 3% of positive tested landed in ICU as of today [CNN: NY gov briefing].

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I've see a number of 16,000 ventilators for NY. If to assume each of the 3% critical patients in ICU will get one, an estimate of total cases will look like 500,000 or something?
SiliconWizard:
Prince Charles is positive: https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11216131/prince-charles-positive-coronavirus/


--- Quote ---It is believed he suffered mild symptoms over the weekend while at Highgrove House in Gloucester and flew privately to Scotland on Sunday night where he was tested on Monday.
(...)
Charles most recently saw the Queen "briefly" on March 12.
Medical experts believe the earliest Charles would have been contagious was March 13.
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She's lucky. ::)
PlainName:

--- Quote ---Why do you need to wait for the Government?
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I suspect he is envious of the British sense of humour also, but hasn't quite got it down pat.

Or maybe it takes one to know one.
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