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SiliconWizard:
Well, the confinement is certainly helping the slowdown. It's a drastic reduction in daily contacts.

That said, what looks sort of weird is that the slowdown seems correlated with the date the confinement officially started, whereas due to the incubation time, we would expect a longer latency...

Stray Electron:

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--- Quote from: Stray Electron on March 25, 2020, 02:39:47 pm ---    In every previous medical situation, the medical professionals have recommended using masks but now that the hospitals are short, suddenly they're telling everyone else NOT to use one and that suddenly they're ineffective.  Seriously?  Or are you just trying to keep all of the masks for yourself and your medical colleagues?

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If, IF, that is true, so what? Who better deserves a supply of protective equipment if it's in short supply? The people on the front line risking their lives to help others or the general public?

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Oh, as I said earlier, I can understand the resource management and the priorities.
The small issue I see is the lie. Even if it's a white lie for the greater good, it's still a lie, and it's obvious that especially engineers will tend to call people on that.

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Except there's no evidence to point to a lie. That's why the "If, IF," qualification. And frankly, I don't think a bunch of engineers who hadn't heard of "basic reproduction number" or "case fatality ratios" two weeks ago, some of whom think that you culture human viruses in bacteria in a Petri dish, or can't tell the difference between a virologist, an epidemiologist or a general practitioner, or think that Kreb's cycle is something that you pedal, and probably think that xenic technique is something to do with how you handle foreigners, are best placed to make the judgement whether it's a lie or not.

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  So you looked a few fancy terms. It doesn't mean that you have any idea of what you're talking about.

   And in case you missed it, after weeks of the WHO, CDC and other "experts"claiming that industrial grade masks weren't effective against the virus, US officials are now suddenly saying that they good enough to be used in hospitals!  They claim that the problem was that industrial mask makers don't have the liability insurance to make that claim but now the US has passed a law removing any liability against them. BINGO!  Now the US is supplying industrial grade masks to hospitals!

Cerebus:

--- Quote from: JPortici on March 25, 2020, 06:10:40 pm ---However i'm not really being sold on the data from other countries (huge slow down in US,UK,Germany and france all at once  :-// )

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Well, I can't speak for the others, but based on my own observations here in East London, in the UK the vast majority of people were already isolating themselves a week ago, and two weeks ago a significant proportion had already started to isolate themselves - based on observing 5-10% of normal road traffic yesterday, 10-20% a week ago and 30-50% two weeks ago. Tie that in with incubation times and I would have expected a drop in new case rates round about now.

Deni:
Can somebody comment/explain this?


and especially this:

http://www.euromomo.eu/index.html

thinkfat:

--- Quote from: Deni on March 25, 2020, 06:59:59 pm ---Can somebody comment/explain this?


and especially this:

http://www.euromomo.eu/index.html

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Yes, easily. He's an idiot.

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