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Covid 19 virus
Cerebus:
--- Quote from: Stray Electron on March 25, 2020, 06:58:18 pm --- So you looked a few fancy terms. It doesn't mean that you have any idea of what you're talking about.
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Kind of the point. It so happens that I do know what they mean and didn't need to look anything up because before I was what I am now I was on course to become a biochemist, but that's frankly irrelevant because I'm not setting myself out as either the expert or in a valid position to challenge the experts - however, many people with even less biomedical knowledge than me are setting themselves out to challenge the advice of the experts. I know that I know little enough to defray to the experts, others seem to be only too happy to go full Dunning-Kruger on this because "we're engineers".
To a biochemist 'transconductance' and 'reactance' are 'fancy' terms. That you use 'fancy' in that disparaging way would seem to indicate a degree of contempt for people whose speciality is not yours. That kind of anti-intellectualism is normal in some circles but is hardly becoming of someone who would describe themselves as an engineer. What's next "Hey look boys, we got ourselves a reader."?
not1xor1:
--- Quote from: dietert1 on March 25, 2020, 05:04:50 pm ---The WHO predicts that within days USA will be the global hotspot of the coronavirus disease. I think all major TV channels should have prepared by now and start as soon as possible a strong educational effort to show and explain all aspects of how to DIY useful face masks and how to use them properly. Those programs should run all day instead of all the other nonsense. This way they should demonstrate their patriotism. Nodody should rely on some strange youtube video.
Regards, Dieter
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I wrote that several days ago (I was overly pessimistic, US are doing a bit better than what I feared)
Due to the different TZ, US data are updated up to the next morning (European time)
by then US cases figure will be close to the Italian one
the day after tomorrow in the morning, US will surely be the first country in the world for amount of positive cases
deaths figure of course lags a few weeks behind
everybody who's been looking at the pandemic development in Italy should have been able to see that
BTW here in Italy both new cases and new deaths have been steadily decreasing since several days
some WHO guy declared that the peak is not so far away... probably Spain is 5-7 days behind us (I hope less)
Stray Electron:
--- Quote from: SiliconWizard on March 25, 2020, 05:57:18 pm ---Yeah...
This has probably been posted several times already, but just in case: https://virusncov.com/
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That site looks almost identical to Worldometer <https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/>. If you click on the name of a country (the US for example) it will give you a state by state breakdown. New York is in deep trouble.
Cerebus:
--- Quote from: thinkfat on March 25, 2020, 07:01:56 pm ---
--- Quote from: Deni on March 25, 2020, 06:59:59 pm ---Can somebody comment/explain this?
and especially this:
http://www.euromomo.eu/index.html
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Yes, easily. He's an idiot.
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And presumably you base that on watching the video? Odd then that you were able to respond at 19:01:56 to a comment posted at 18:59:59 - a whole 2 minutes to watch a 10 minute video and compose a comment about it? Impressive.
Wallace Gasiewicz:
There are a few articles out there with positive patients who are asymptomatic.
Here is one:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32146694/
Other studies have shown huge problems with the testing showing lots of false positives.
It is a new test and different countries are using different tests.
If you really want to confuse yourself here is another article
https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/925523
In the end if someone is sick, IN MY OPINION,the physician should treat the most likely cause, here a proven reliable test would be helpful because symptoms of flu and covid have a large overlap.
We really do not know the sensitivity and specificity of the current tests yet, medical tests have false positives and false negatives. I am sure there are articles published but these tests are so new one must take them with a modicum of uncertainty.
I know I am referencing articles from China and I must admit there is always a bit of doubt about their veracity.
I am adding another reference
https://www.dw.com/en/up-to-30-of-coronavirus-cases-asymptomatic/a-52900988
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