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| Zero999:
--- Quote from: nctnico on March 25, 2020, 08:47:51 pm --- --- Quote from: not1xor1 on March 25, 2020, 08:37:17 pm --- --- Quote from: thinkfat on March 25, 2020, 08:29:29 pm ---I'm not sure if I can sum up his arguments in a few sentences, but as far as I got it: * The test kits for SARS-CoV-2 are sensitive to many Corona viruses, not just SARS-CoV-2. * Corona viruses are endemic, you find them everywhere. * It's impossible to figure out if somebody died from infection with SARS-CoV-2 or from any other cause. * There is no pandemic, it's just normal flu season and the panic is just due to testing with flawed methods. --- End quote --- :palm: so he's just the usual nut who pretends he is the only one who knows the truth while all the other guys are just fools... --- End quote --- Yes. The typical Youtube mis-information clickbait. --- End quote --- To be honest, my initial reaction was this has all been blown out of proportion, but I soon realised I was obviously wrong. I'm glad I wasn't running the country. If he still doesn't believe it's a problem, perhaps he should visit Italy? |
| drussell:
--- Quote from: Wallace Gasiewicz on March 25, 2020, 07:46:40 pm ---There are a few articles out there with positive patients who are asymptomatic. Here is one: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32146694/ --- End quote --- Interesting, thank you. In case anyone is interested, here is a link to the actual paper, instead of just the abstract with multiple links to jump through to find the .PDF: https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1007/s11427-020-1661-4.pdf I had not seen that one yet, I will have to read it in detail as soon as I have a moment. Right now, though, I must venture out for a bit.... |
| iMo:
--- Quote from: not1xor1 on March 25, 2020, 08:40:01 pm --- --- Quote from: drussell on March 25, 2020, 08:36:14 pm --- --- Quote from: engrguy42 on March 25, 2020, 04:38:33 pm ---"hey, we need a gazillion retired doctors and other medical professionals to get back to work, --- End quote --- While at first that might sound like a good idea, most of those retired doctors fall squarely in the most at-risk groups for death if they end up contracting the virus. Given the current lack of reliable PPE supply and the likelihood for gaps in proper protection procedures for at least the short-to-medium term, bringing a bunch of older doctors out of retirement may not actually be the best idea. Graduating new doctors and nurses a bit early from their school programs, though, would probably make a lot of sense. Being allowed to help with basic care, even if they haven't technically completed every requirement yet might be rather useful very soon. --- End quote --- they had to rely on both measures in the most stricken part of Italy tenths of doctors have died during the last month --- End quote --- Media informed about doctors from China, Russia and Cuba who came to help Italy. Is that so? How is their contribution (ie special methods, drugs, equipment)? |
| engrguy42:
Move along...nothing happening here...just some facts to inject. FWIW, here is my summary of today's (March 25) WHO report on the 8 countries with the highest COVID19 deaths to date. Here's where the US stands: - Remains #6 in total deaths to date. - #4 in new deaths since yesterday's report - #3 in confirmed cases to date. - #6 in confirmed cases as % of total population. - #8 (last place) in total deaths to date as % of population |
| Cerebus:
--- Quote from: drussell on March 25, 2020, 08:36:14 pm ---While at first that might sound like a good idea, most of those retired doctors fall squarely in the most at-risk groups for death if they end up contracting the virus. Given the current lack of reliable PPE supply and the likelihood for gaps in proper protection procedures for at least the short-to-medium term, bringing a bunch of older doctors out of retirement may not actually be the best idea. --- End quote --- They don't necessarily have to get pushed into the front line. They can fill in in lower risk rĂ´les to free up the doctors currently doing that for front line duty. Although there is a quantity of stuff that the health care system can postpone, let's not forget that there's a lot of other urgent and emergency stuff going on all the time that isn't going away and still needs doctors and nurses to deal with. |
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