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Covid 19 virus
Zero999:
--- Quote from: Simon on March 26, 2020, 08:11:32 am ---
--- Quote from: engrguy42 on March 25, 2020, 12:57:44 pm ---
--- Quote from: paulca on March 25, 2020, 12:51:42 pm ---In the UK the government launched a helpline were people could volunteer to help the NHS take care of the vulnerable in the community.
In a single night, 250,000 people signed up overshooting the target considerably.
This is the spirit we like to see.
Additionally supermarkets are allowing NHS staff in early and greeting them with applause and flowers.
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Really?? That's wonderful.
I dunno, I've grown up with a huge respect for the people in the UK. Y'know, "stiff upper lip" and all. They always seemed to be the "adults in the room" while the rest of the world is flailing around. Not sure how it's been in recent years, but it's good to see that they're yet again a role model.
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Not anymore. We have a dual pandemic, the virus itself and stupidity. The government are pretending that if they tell people what to do they will do it and we are different and don't need any of this lockdown rubbish but reality is plenty of people are not being sensible.
At work the shop floor staff take the piss that us office people get to work from home whilst not all of them are being sensible. When they all get it together and we have to close us office bods that have it easy will be the ones continuing to work from home whilst the nut and bolt assemblers will be at home having it easy.
They created a company wide whtsapp group and in two hours had to close it due to the stupidity going around on it. They were so stupid that it took 1 in 20+ 2 hours to figure out that management were in the group too...... That's your stiff upper lip brits.
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It's brought out the best, as well as the worst in people. The government have been inundated with volunteers to help out with this emergency.
--- Quote from: drussell on March 26, 2020, 02:26:18 am ---
--- Quote from: engrguy42 on March 25, 2020, 09:31:55 pm ---Move along...nothing happening here...just some facts to inject.
FWIW, here is my summary of today's (March 25) WHO report on the 8 countries with the highest COVID19 deaths to date.
Here's where the US stands:
- Remains #6 in total deaths to date.
- #4 in new deaths since yesterday's report
- #3 in confirmed cases to date.
- #6 in confirmed cases as % of total population.
- #8 (last place) in total deaths to date as % of population
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Ok. All true enough. I don't understand what point you're trying to make, though.
They are also:
- #1 in active, unresolved cases.
- #1 in new confirmed infections per day
- #1 in speed of rise in cases since first 100 detected
(the slope of the line is almost right on the doubles-every-2-days line, surpassing Italy and Spain)
Within the next 48h they will also become the country with the highest number of total confirmed cases.
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The number of deaths as well as cases is likely to be underestimated, because some people die at home. There will also be lots of people who will indirectly killed because they're suffering from other illnesses and can't be treated because all the beds are taken by COVID-19 patients.
Although rare, it can kill young, previously healthy patients. A 21 old, previously healthy women was recently killed by Covid-19.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-52041709
not1xor1:
--- Quote from: Simon on March 26, 2020, 09:20:44 am ---Apulia or Puglia as I knew it when I lived there apparently has people being stopped even from town to town to see if their journey is necessary although my friend lies to get through so that he can go and eat at his parents. It's also a very insular and rural area so even with many people going about their daily work providing they do sensible things at shops.
Here I see shops starting to implement distance queuing and limited amounts of people in at one time because us more intelligent stiff upper lip just carry on blitz spirit brits are just too stupid to stay 2m apart and not crowd into shops.
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In Italy, like in most countries there are more sensible people who abide by the rules (that serve one's own health), and others that, out of utter ignorance and stupidity, just do not care. The proportion of those is likely different in every country, but as soon as some people they know dies, those latter may change their attitude.
I get out as few times as I can (usually once or twice a week) with the only FFP3 mask left from the stock I bought one year ago.
There are not so many people around. But even in the really short time I was out I witnessed various display of pure idiocy like a 40-50 y-old woman who took off her mask to kiss a young man (may be a relative who'd just arrived from north Italy ?) and so on.
The problem is that those idiots may survive and still kill other people who do not deserve that (e.g. health care staff).
Simon:
the government forgets that they expect us to keep working. I'd have limited time to volunteer. The largest amount of people available to volunteer might just be the people the government have screwed over with their half arsed economic measures. Hopefully these are all genuine volunteers and not people that will flake out ass soon as they are actually asked to do something.
My main concern is remaining virus free so that I can get food and medicine for my dad.
iMo:
--- Quote from: not1xor1 on March 26, 2020, 09:25:57 am ---..While of course that is just a piece of data, that's true for a small town and we cannot be sure how much that's apply to all the various regions of Italy or to the whole country, yet it gives an idea that only an idiot can think there is an overestimation of deaths.
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Decades back I had the pleasure to spend a couple of years with doctors implementing an IT system for them (a "decision support system"). The doctors were the authorities, mostly senior experts, working for governmental bodies. The first thing they do when evaluating data is they are searching for "outliers" and they kick out the "outliers" from the data set without any long discussion. Then they create the statistics. The outliers were related for example to mortality (a highly sensitive topic today), not to "zener diodes with the knee a bit off". Guess how they will evaluate the 2020 pandemic in Europe.
VK3DRB:
This virus highlights the wealth gap between the haves and have-nots.
Here is a solution to isolating the homeless in London, Melbourne and many other cities infested with foreign ghost property owners. The government takes over the empty apartments owned by foreigners to be used for the homeless until the virus is no longer a threat. No compensation to the owners. In Melbourne there are around 80,000 permanently empty apartments and houses owned by mostly foreigners, many of whom are just hiding money here.
It was reported in the media the landlords are crying poor and want assistance from the taxpayer if people cannot pay their rents. A handout cash splash for landlords will likely happen because most of the politicians are housing investors, and they always agree unanimously on any legislation that feathers their own nests. The renters who lost their jobs need supporting, not greedy f%#king landlords.
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