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Muttley Snickers:

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--- Quote from: Muttley Snickers on March 26, 2020, 11:06:37 am ---After spending an entire week at home and away from other people I fucked up today by going to the local post office to pay the phone bill without taking a mask....

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can't you do that online?

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Yeah, I probably could have but I was starting to climb the walls and wanted to check out the nearby supermarket as well to see what the stock levels were like. I was also out of fresh fruit and vegetables and had a mad craving for a big salad.   ::)
iMo:

--- Quote from: Muttley Snickers on March 26, 2020, 12:13:06 pm ---
--- Quote from: not1xor1 on March 26, 2020, 11:46:23 am ---
--- Quote from: Muttley Snickers on March 26, 2020, 11:06:37 am ---After spending an entire week at home and away from other people I fucked up today by going to the local post office to pay the phone bill without taking a mask....

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can't you do that online?

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Yeah, I probably could have but I was starting to climb the walls and wanted to check out the nearby supermarket as well to see what the stock levels were like. I was also out of fresh fruit and vegetables and had a mad craving for a big salad.   ::)

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Imagine 9mil New Yorkers will do the same..  :scared:
Siwastaja:
One great thing in Finland right now is that mostly, maybe except for some limited areas in very central Helsinki, we live sparsely, compared to any large European city (let alone New York :phew:). Even in our typical 100k people cities, you can pretty much take a walk without having to face too many people on the way, and can easily maintain two meters of distance all the time. This is why we are unlikely to see full-blown curfews here; it's enough to limit people actually gathering indoors (or dense outdoor activities), but we have enough sidewalk space, not to even talk about the forests.
paulca:

--- Quote from: imo on March 26, 2020, 12:38:34 pm ---
--- Quote from: Muttley Snickers on March 26, 2020, 12:13:06 pm ---
--- Quote from: not1xor1 on March 26, 2020, 11:46:23 am ---
--- Quote from: Muttley Snickers on March 26, 2020, 11:06:37 am ---After spending an entire week at home and away from other people I fucked up today by going to the local post office to pay the phone bill without taking a mask....

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can't you do that online?

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Yeah, I probably could have but I was starting to climb the walls and wanted to check out the nearby supermarket as well to see what the stock levels were like. I was also out of fresh fruit and vegetables and had a mad craving for a big salad.   ::)

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Imagine 9mil New Yorkers will do the same..  :scared:

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Reminds me of the local public transport companies advert slogan they put up on roads.

You aren't stuck in traffic, you ARE traffic.
Cerebus:

--- Quote from: Leo Bodnar on March 26, 2020, 08:04:30 am ---Mr.Scram,
How often do you wear a proper equipment?
You sound very well versed in the art.
Please share your personal killer tips as a professional.
I am just curious, because I wear P100 respirators, sealed goggles and FFP3 masks on a daily basis.  Maybe I have been endangering myself all this time?
Thanks for your help with this matter.
Leo


--- Quote from: Mr. Scram on March 24, 2020, 10:45:24 pm ---I feel we're going round in circles. The issue is that people don't have the proper training and discipline. They are likely to tug at infected masks and display more risky behaviour.

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While you're being sarky with Le Scram, do you wear PPE on a daily basis in an infection control setting, or just an industrial one? If the later, are you assuming that your expertise in one area automatically transfers to the other?

Believe it or not there is a difference. If you're wearing a mast to protect you from non-toxic dusts, or solvents and the like, or protect a clean room from you, you generally don't do to great lengths to avoid touching contaminated parts of the mask, gloves, gowns and goggles. Also you don't treat them as a strict single use item - e.g. You'll take a mask off on leaving a hazard area and then re-use it on entering. I can say that in industrial settings I've rarely encountered situations where a full set of PPE is donned, used for 15 minutes and then all disposed of, with the procedure repeated immediately as it would be for a different patient in an infection control situation.

For the record, I've been trained to use PPE (including respirators) in industrial settings and in a microbiology lab (a relatively low risk environment as one is not usually deliberately culturing serious pathogens, but one takes precautions because one might accidental culture serious pathogens). All bets are off at the moment because with a beard I'm not going to pass a fit/leak test for a respirator anyway. I can personally attest that practice in the two arenas is quite different.

Here's a version of just the recommended removal procedure when using PPE in an infection control setting:



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