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Covid 19 virus
Cerebus:
--- Quote from: engrguy42 on March 26, 2020, 11:54:44 pm ---
--- Quote from: Nusa on March 26, 2020, 10:53:47 pm ---
--- Quote from: engrguy42 on March 26, 2020, 09:31:37 pm ---My latest summary of the WHO March 26 report, hot off the presses. This is for the 8 countries with the most confirmed cases. I also included some info I didn't have before.
Attached chart of deaths to date and new deaths for the US shows deaths to date (884) in yellow, and new deaths each day in dark blue.
- US remains #3 in total confirmed cases to date.
- US remains #6 in total confirmed cases as a % of population.
- US moved up one spot in number of total deaths to date as a % of population (from #8 to #7)
- For the last 4 days US has had a flat rate of approx. 200 new deaths total per day, except for the 24th when it had only 69 (about the same as the 19th thru the 22nd when it was flat with around 40-50 each day).
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The conspicuous absence of Germany on that list seemed odd since I knw it had more cases than Iran, France, The Netherlands or the UK, so I took a closer look at the WHO report for that date: https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/situation-reports/20200326-sitrep-66-covid-19.pdf?sfvrsn=81b94e61_2
The numbers match for the countries listed, but it's now obvious to me that you misinterpreted what the 2nd chart is. And fooled yourself into drawing the wrong conclusions.
The chart is actually the 8 countries with the most confirmed deaths, which is a different subset of countries than confirmed cases.
With either subset of countries, it's misleading to state deaths by % of population at all, unless that's also the criteria selecting the subset of countries you're looking at. For instance, if you look at the entire list, while the US is obviously on the rise, there are quite a few countries ahead of it when sorted by % deaths/population.
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Yes, I missed Germany. Thanks. So I provide a bunch of data, and you are all free to add any missing data.
As far as "misinterpreting" and "fooling myself" and all the other wonderful stuff you said, let me suggest you tap the brakes a bit. I, unlike most others here, am trying to provide actual data, rather than drone on and on with irrelevant handwaving and ridiculous and irrelevant pseudo-facts solely to make themselves sound smart.
If you don't like the format or the conclusions, then I'm sure you are intelligent enough to draw your own conclusions. I don't owe you anything.
And perhaps even a mumbled "thanks for the info" might be more appropriate don't you think?
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I really don't see anything in those comments that justifies you taking such a "chip on the shoulder" attitude to nusa and others. Perhaps you should be the one "tapping the brakes". If you want somewhere you can speak ex cathedra and expect applause for it, this isn't it.
Pluscrafter:
What do you think about the situation in Switzerland and that they mobilises the army(up to 8000, yet 3000) for that reason. Also with the situation Switzerland is in some cases a centralized statethe rather than a federation. In my opinion the executives do a really good job. And there wasn't any speech from the Bundesratpräsident, like "we have a war against the virus" and they explain the next steps what and why the want to execute this rule. Luckily I can send my friend packages(only up to 5 Kg) without fee into the army so he gets enought chocolate.
Mr. Scram:
--- Quote from: Cerebus on March 27, 2020, 12:09:50 am ---I really don't see anything in those comments that justifies you taking such a "chip on the shoulder" attitude to nusa and others. Perhaps you should be the one "tapping the brakes". If you want somewhere you can speak ex cathedra and expect applause for it, this isn't it.
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At first I was convinced a few people here are just stirring the pot, but now I'm wondering whether the situation is getting to them. It must be rough when your feelings aren't mirrored by the rest of the world.
Stray Electron:
--- Quote from: nctnico on March 26, 2020, 10:49:44 pm ---
I'm getting the feeling the US is not going to try really hard to contain the Covid-19 virus from spreading in order to minimise the hit on the economy. Or put differently: it seems there just isn't enough money around to serve as a life boat for the economy.
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Unfortunately you might be right about that. It certainly doesn't appear that they've made much of an effort to contain it. More than a few in this forum have been calling for exactly that and in addition, the US government just spend a third of their annual budget today on give away programs to keep the peasants from revolting. And to top it all off they've also promised all sorts of tax exemptions so the tax revenue will be less than usual.
I'm seriously thinking that I should go out and get the virus now while there's still a chance that I'll get treated at a functioning hospital.
maginnovision:
--- Quote from: Stray Electron on March 27, 2020, 02:39:56 am ---
--- Quote from: nctnico on March 26, 2020, 10:49:44 pm ---
I'm getting the feeling the US is not going to try really hard to contain the Covid-19 virus from spreading in order to minimise the hit on the economy. Or put differently: it seems there just isn't enough money around to serve as a life boat for the economy.
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Unfortunately you might be right about that. It certainly doesn't appear that they've made much of an effort to contain it. More than a few in this forum have been calling for exactly that and in addition, the US government just spend a third of their annual budget today on give away programs to keep the peasants from revolting. And to top it all off they've also promised all sorts of tax exemptions so the tax revenue will be less than usual.
I'm seriously thinking that I should go out and get the virus now while there's still a chance that I'll get treated at a functioning hospital.
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If I weren't in bad shape now and high risk anyway I'd feel the same way.
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