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Covid 19 virus
BrianHG:
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Darwin award
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I know how we can easily point and judge, but this Christian pastor who has been fed false information through the US's 'republican media' and certain chosen US government's official claims, including those who he preaches to as a community. To no fault of his own, I'm sure he truly believed his claims. If he truly wanted to protect as many lives as possible of those who follow him who get their news from the same sources, though he is no longer among the living, he may have chosen this outcome if it warns and saves as many of his followers as possible.
hendorog:
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--- Quote from: engrguy42 on March 27, 2020, 09:28:56 pm ---FYI, the reason I focus on deaths is because there are far too many unknowns, IMO, to draw any meaningful conclusions on the ultimate impact based solely on number of confirmed cases. For example, Spain and Germany have vastly different numbers of total deaths to date (4089 vs 253, respectively), but have 56k vs. 42k confirmed cases, respectively.
And in the last 2 weeks the US has had a fairly flat average death rate, which is certainly not directly proportional to the increasing # of confirmed cases.
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"Fairly flat" isn't how I'd define the US Covid-19 death rate, given the graphs compiled by these folks:
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
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That's the total. It's the increment (new deaths day per day) that is fairly flat and gives an almost linear progression. But at this early stage I doubt it has any relevance. Mostly these are the dead that resulted from the number of infected about two weeks earlier (as per a study on Lancet IIRC). Not enough data.
The exponential for the death is starting to kick off in these days, unfortunately.
Besides, the number of deaths is the most controversial number because each Country seem to be using a different protocol in classifying death for Covid-19. The number of infected, on the other hand, reflects the number of 'mature' cases (that require medical attention) but also depends on the number of tests done. So, it seems to me there is not a surefire metric to compare how different countries fare.
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I think you are dead right (!)
Confirmed cases is a poor metric for comparison, as it depends on testing capacity - and contact tracing capacity to find cases to test based on known cases.
And there are many people who don't have symptoms - combined with people how have minor symptoms -so there could be big hidden clusters of people who are not tested.
Deaths are easier to count, but of course are delayed too much to be useful, impacted by the demographic and existing health conditions,, and impacted by the capacity of the medical system to treat people (ICU beds etc)
Comparing countries is not easy. Germany is clearly a big outlier. Perhaps they are awesome at testing and contact tracing. And so they have detected many more people with minor infections than other countries.
Electro Detective:
The questionably sourced graph casualties are dying from what they were going to die from anyway, no invisible believers' C is necessary.
Why should the few low lifes keep beating this up and capitalize on it,
and send everyone else buying into the force fed BS to the poor house,
without even a sniffle or sneeze to show for it :-[
maginnovision:
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/03/not-wearing-masks-protect-against-coronavirus-big-mistake-top-chinese-scientist-says#
Chinese CDC official says clinical trial results for remdesivir should be available in April.
iMo:
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--- Quote from: imo on March 27, 2020, 06:08:46 pm ---While looking for some info on asthma vs. covid I've come across this picture - NO2 concentration in Europe. Would be interesting to compare covid data with the map..
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https://www.independent.co.uk/environment/satellite-images-emissions-climate-crisis-coronavirus-europe-map-a9426436.html
Infection rates are unlikely to be the correlation, its more about control measures/restrictions being applied in each area.
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The percentage of people in ICUs does show a correlation, it seems..
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