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not1xor1:
Thanks to Albania. That is a small and not so rich country and probably is seldom mentioned in the news. Anyway they are more willing to help us than other European countries.

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Zero999:

--- Quote from: Mr. Scram on March 29, 2020, 12:32:40 am ---
--- Quote from: nctnico on March 29, 2020, 12:19:10 am ---If someone is idiotic enough to spit or cough on someone the person likely doesn't have much of a life to begin with. One of the people they sentenced to do jail time in the NL was a homeless person (he didn't die but is no longer homeless). Let's not forget that Covid19 is a potentially deadly decease; not something to make fun of. Especially when it involves public servants doing their best to keep the country clean and safe.

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Running a red light poses a much more real danger and we don't lock people up for a year for that either. I'm not even suggesting to not do anything about such behaviour and understand that examples have to be made, it's just that we shouldn't go overboard. People are scared and emotional but that doesn't mean we should lose all common sense and proportion.

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The difference is intent. He wanted to scare the police officer and the example you've provided isn't clear cut. I ran a red light yesterday because the stupid traffic light shouldn't have been red. I stopped, waited for a couple of minutes, until I noticed that all of the other junctions were clear, then preceded slowly, with caution. The same traffic light always does this: waits for ages on red, when it should be green, holding the traffic up. It's harming others by increasing pollution and CO2 levels and needs to be reprogrammed.

That man won't be in prison for that long. He'll be released in a few months. Hardly anyone serves the full sentence in this country.
Leo Bodnar:
Hold off with Chloroquine and its derivatives until we know more.
Few studies - most recent ones in China and France - suggest that it is useless at best and dangerous at worst.
http://www.zjujournals.com/med/EN/10.3785/j.issn.1008-9292.2020.03.03
etc.
Italians are running a clinical study at the moment.
I am following this with some interest because I have some Hydroxychloroquine and Plaquenil put away as last resort option.  It might as well end up in a rubbish bin.
Leo


--- Quote from: MasterTech on March 29, 2020, 07:59:18 am ---Moreover it is being reported that chloroquine is actually successful because it is an ionophore of zinc, ie it increases its concentration in the cells.

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bd139:
Chloroquine is nasty shit. Even if it is effective it should be last resort. Can cause permanent cardiac damage. Also on top of that so can Covid-19 apparently. Smells like a damage amplifier.

I think I have covid-19 at the moment. Relatively mild so far but indicators are persistent cough, fever (now gone), all over aches and pains.  I’m considering most of the company I work for had Covid-19 as well as we lost approximately half of the staff during feb with same class of symptoms. I get the feeling this will turn into something slightly worse than the usual flu season in body count even if it looks bad now. Long term economic and social damage will have a higher cost to society.

In U.K. we are at 4% of a bad flu year’s body count and the age distribution is about the same. I suspect the death rate will level out soon. I may eat my hat there but it seems a sensible assertion to make.
Leo Bodnar:
BBC NEWS just interviewed the lead of UK Hydroxychloroquine trial now.  It's ongoing. We will see soon.
Leo
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