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Sredni:

--- Quote from: SiliconWizard on March 29, 2020, 02:53:51 pm ---
--- Quote from: thinkfat on March 29, 2020, 02:48:05 pm ---Everyone will try to postpone drastic actions until they run out of other options. Nobody wants to risk their arse calling Wolf. Either way they will be roasted by media. For wasting money or lives.

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Agreed. This is a very tough kind of decision to make. And we have no sure way of predicting for sure how a given virus will act and spread until it has already done so significantly - by definition, acting early would be acting on non-significant data, which no one would really agree with. It's easy to agree with early actions when it's way past early. It's not when we have little inconclusive data.

Sure some countries have waited for too long even when we started to have significant data, but it's obvious we're always going to lag by a few weeks with viruses like this. Otherwise we would end up taking drastic measures every time  people start sneezing in the streets.

Always easy to say what should have been done, rarely easy to say what should *be* done.

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You know, in general I would tend to agree but in this case...
Didn't our politician see what had happened in China? Even with all the mistrust for a totalitarian regime with a Great Firewall designed to prevent the spread of 'undesired' ideas, the data on the industrial production was there for all to see. But after that, didn't they see what happened to Italy?
And after that, didn't the see what happened to Spain?
And after that...

It is true that this is a very serious problem with no painless solution, but the math is pretty clear and is known to experts in math and epidemiology. To avoid a catastrophic spread of a highly contagious virus with no vaccine in sight you need to act fast on social distancing. Se for example the latest videos by Tom Rocks Maths on YT, it explains it very well.

Instead, every Country is looking at the demise of their neighbors, possibly trying to take advantage of their economic downfall, instead of deploying measures to prevent this mutual exploitation. Hollywood will make "The Big short 2", and everybody will wonder why it was allowed to happen - again.
(all of this in addition to the loss of jobs and company foreclosure due to the lockdown).

SiliconWizard:

--- Quote from: dietert1 on March 29, 2020, 04:43:49 pm ---I am lucky to live near the black forest in Germany. A river with green shores passes about 200m from our office and we can walk the dog for hours without meeting anybody. Absolutely no reason to complain.

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You are lucky.

Over here, getting out for just exercising is now restricted to 1 hour and 1 km max. from your house. For people living in urban areas, that's basically just going around your block or something. And except for disabled people, in 1 hour you're going to pretty much run in circles several times in a radius of 1 km. Sweet.

not1xor1:

--- Quote from: Sredni on March 29, 2020, 05:19:20 pm ---Instead, every Country is looking at the demise of their neighbors, possibly trying to take advantage of their economic downfall, instead of deploying measures to prevent this mutual exploitation. Hollywood will make "The Big short 2", and everybody will wonder why it was allowed to happen - again.
(all of this in addition to the loss of jobs and company foreclosure due to the lockdown).

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=19&v=ArrKjxCeNHY&feature=emb_logo
I agree with and thank Mr Costa

SiliconWizard:

--- Quote from: Sredni on March 29, 2020, 05:19:20 pm ---Instead, every Country is looking at the demise of their neighbors, possibly trying to take advantage of their economic downfall, instead of deploying measures to prevent this mutual exploitation.

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I don't know if that's entirely true, but the situation is still enlightening. Just look at how we manage the crisis on a european level? Looks like every country is trying to fight on their own, even getting help from chinese doctors. Where's the EU? Where's the unity? Where is the european collaboration? Are EU members currently better off than the others helping the latter in any way? I dunno. I may have missed something, but lately, the only time I've heard from the EU was because of this stupid comment from a representative that drove Huawei off. That sounds certainly helpful. ::)

vodka:

--- Quote from: SiliconWizard on March 29, 2020, 05:46:41 pm ---
--- Quote from: dietert1 on March 29, 2020, 04:43:49 pm ---I am lucky to live near the black forest in Germany. A river with green shores passes about 200m from our office and we can walk the dog for hours without meeting anybody. Absolutely no reason to complain.

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You are lucky.

Over here, getting out for just exercising is now restricted to 1 hour and 1 km max. from your house. For people living in urban areas, that's basically just going around your block or something. And except for disabled people, in 1 hour you're going to pretty much run in circles several times in a radius of 1 km. Sweet.

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Really, i don't understand the people that can't stay in home during a month without turning themselves crazy. I am a fortunate person  because  i live in a chalet with a forest at front.
I don't know what they would do  if they would be in submarine.

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