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Covid 19 virus
tinhead:
--- Quote from: Bud on March 29, 2020, 07:50:15 pm ---??? How many Italians out of those hundreds of ones dying every day the Germans "fly in" ?
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does it really matter? every single person counts
--- Quote from: imo on March 29, 2020, 03:42:09 pm ---80% of test kits from China show false results
https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3903937
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These tests are ok, for antibody test, as mentioned on the test instruction "Detect IgM and IgG antibodies of the Coronavirus", so yes, they almost useless in early stage. It is very unfortunate that some politicians think they can just buy something, and if that didn't work just blame others.
Btw, that's not funny, even if really rare, but still possible: https://www.straitstimes.com/world/europe/coronavirus-infected-cat-found-in-belgium
Now try to tell your cat/dog to not go outside :(
paulca:
--- Quote from: Mr. Scram on March 29, 2020, 10:40:43 pm ---
--- Quote from: dunkemhigh on March 29, 2020, 10:07:06 pm ---My strictly non-emotional head says that if there has to be a choice, the one most likely to survive should get the goodies. I guess that in many cases, that would mean the old being discarded, and that would sure look like discrimination. Certainly wouldn't want to be the one making that choice (actually, wouldn't want to be making any choice along those lines).
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It's a bit insulting to think doctors wouldn't do everything and anything to avoid having to make those choices and wouldn't optimize their resources as far as they humanly can. Triage isn't a choice but a necessity, if and when it comes to that.
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A small interview with an NHS respiratory consultant and ER junior that discusses this thorny issue.
EEVblog:
This is the hero we need!
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/mar/30/astrophysicist-gets-magnets-stuck-up-nose-while-inventing-coronavirus-device
VK3DRB:
--- Quote from: blueskull on March 29, 2020, 02:36:42 pm ---
--- Quote from: Siwastaja on March 29, 2020, 02:12:44 pm ---Many of us are from crippled political systems where the proper response comes way too late, and with way more difficulties than it should.
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Actually, from the first case traced back to 12.1 to the general mass to realize sh!t happened, it took us a good 7 weeks. Things started to smell fishy on around 1.20 and quickly escalated to full lock down of Wuhan and prepared lock down of many other cities. Until all measures were taken, it took us at least 8 good weeks to respond.
The second wave, imported cases, started to show at least a month ago, and just yesterday China closed its boarder.
So it seems we made the same mistake on wasting time. This is a delay thing. As we are seeing, Italy, then some other EU countries, then the US, are using a lot of emergency laws to make things happen now, and more countries will certainly jump on the same wagon.
World leaders are alike. They tend to cover it up, try to ride it out, until things go wrong and they go berserk and declare a full scale war against it.
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You are right. But some governments are also infused with a mixture of with foolishness and stupidity, as well.
This virus fiasco in Australia could have been avoided with agile and proactive government. Ours allowed several planeloads of travellers from Wuhan out onto the streets after the virus was already out of control in Wuhan. Then we have the Ruby Princess fiasco where NSW Health allowed 2,700 off the cruise ship just a couple of weeks ago. Today there are hundreds infected from this ship. The NSW Health hypocrite is beating his chest saying anyone caught breaking the rules would be fined. He should be put under arrest.
Muttley Snickers:
--- Quote from: EEVblog on March 30, 2020, 09:35:11 am ---This is the hero we need!
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After reading that article I have a sudden urge to touch my face. :palm:
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